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Biodiesel processors are machines that react vegetable oil with [[Methanol]], breaking down the oil into [[Fatty Acid Methyl Esters]] - also known as Biodiesel.
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Biodiesel processors are machines that react vegetable oil with [[methanol]], breaking down the oil into [[fatty acid ethyl esters]], also known as biodiesel.
  
 
Processors can be home built or commercially bought, although caution must be exercised as a great many commercial offerings are not suitable for purpose or are downright dangerous.
 
Processors can be home built or commercially bought, although caution must be exercised as a great many commercial offerings are not suitable for purpose or are downright dangerous.
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* "biodiesel processors" listed on popular auction sites are often not fit for purpose and should be avoided (even the nice-looking ones that cost £2500+).
 
* "biodiesel processors" listed on popular auction sites are often not fit for purpose and should be avoided (even the nice-looking ones that cost £2500+).
* processors should not expose the user to Methanol fumes
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* processors should not expose the user to methanol fumes
* processors should not allow Methanol fumes to go near any equipment that may generate heat (immersion heater elements) or sparks (switches or motors)
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* processors should not allow methanol fumes to go near any equipment that may generate heat (immersion heater elements) or sparks (switches or motors)
 
* processors built out of plastic conical vessels or plastic drums present a far greater fire risk than those made out of metal
 
* processors built out of plastic conical vessels or plastic drums present a far greater fire risk than those made out of metal
  
Excellent advise on processors can be sought on the [http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forums/ vegetableoildiesel forums].  We would strongly encourage a prospective buyer to post there asking about a potential purchase before parting with their hard earned cash.
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Excellent advise on processors can be sought on the [http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/ vegetableoildiesel forums].  We would strongly encourage a prospective buyer to post there asking about a potential purchase before parting with their hard earned cash.
  
[[Category:Biodiesel]]
 
[[Category:Biodiesel equipment]]
 
  
Things to check on your quest for a Good BioDiesel Machine.
 
  
Is the machine SAFE? An open topped drum used for making BioDiesel is most definately NOT SAFE. It will generate Methanol Vapour fumes that are both Highly TOXIC and explosively flammable like Petrol!
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'''Things to check on your quest for a good bioDiesel machine.'''
  
Even if the machine has a lid, Is It perminent and AIRTIGHT? Methanol vapour will escape into your workspace if not.
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*Is the machine safe? An open topped drum used for making biodiesel is most definately not safe. It will generate methanol vapour fumes that are both highly tovic and explosively flammable like petrol!
  
Is the processor vessel Metal?  This is important as heat is involved with making BioDiesel which combined with oil and the other indredients used, can soften and crack many plastics over time inc. HDPE, causing leaks at joints or worse complete splitting of the vessel.
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*Even if the machine has a lid, is it permanent and airtight? Methanol vapour will escape into your workspace if not.
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[[File:MeltedHDPEprocessor.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Result of over heating where an immersion heater is mounted directly in a HDPE processor.]]
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*Is the processor vessel metal?  This is important as heat is involved with making biodiesel which, combined with oil and the other indredients used, can soften and crack many plastics over time including HDPE, causing leaks at joints or worse complete splitting of the vessel.
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*How is the oil heated? Are there any failsafe devices to prevent the heater operating when the liquid level is low?  The danger here is that the heater element will become exposed, overheat, start to glow and ignite oil or methanol vapour in the vessel. The result of this can be very dramatic. This has happened many times over the years with inferior designed plant!
  
How is the oil heated? Are there any failsafe devices to prevent the heater operating when the liquid level is low?  The danger here is that the heater element will become exposed, overheat start to glow and ignite oil or methanol vapour in the vessel. The result of this can be very dramatic, This has happened many times over the years with inferior designed plant!
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*Beware of any claims of an automated machine. Even so-called 'automated machines' need a lot of hands-on work.
  
Beware of any claims of an Automated Machine. Even so-called 'Automated Machines' need a lot of hands on work.
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*How much 'hands-on' time is needed to make fuel?
  
How much 'hands-on' time is needed to make fuel?
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*Does the machine do the whole job of making the fuel? Most base model equipment does not without the addition of expensive add-on items. The making of the fuel is only half the job. Raw, just-made biodiesel will not be suitable for use in any vehicle or engine.  The issues are, it will contain excess methanol and soaps. Both of which can cause serious issues if used in an engine.
  
Does the machine do the whole job of making the fuel? Most base-model equipment does not without the addition of expensive add-on items. The making of the fuel is only half the job. 'Raw' just made BioDiesel will not be suitable for use in any vehicle or engine.--The issues are, it will contain excess Methanol and Soaps. Both of which can cause serious issues if used in an engine.
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*What system of fuel purification is included with the machine?
  
What system of fuel purification is INCLUDED with the machine?
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*What quality is the finished fuel? Has any testing been done on fuel made in that actual design?
  
What quality is the finished fuel? Has any testing been done on fuel made in that actual design?
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*Is there any after-sales training included in the price, and ongoing help from the suppliers?  
  
Is there any after-sales training included in the price, and ongoing help from the suppliers?
 
  
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And Finally, don't buy a machine from an internet auction site, as some of the items there are extremely hazardous and you will have no come-back if you have trouble
  
And Finally, Dont buy a machine from an Internet Auction-Site, as some of the items there are extremely hazardous and you will have NO come-back if you have trouble
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If you are going to buy a ready made machine, always buy it from a reputable supplier who has experience in the field, who will train you properly and give ongoing assistance.
  
Always buy a BioDiesel Processor from a reputable supplier who has experience in the field, who will train you properly and give on going assistance.
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[[Category:Biodiesel]]
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[[Category:Processors and equipment]]

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Biodiesel processors are machines that react vegetable oil with methanol, breaking down the oil into fatty acid ethyl esters, also known as biodiesel.

Processors can be home built or commercially bought, although caution must be exercised as a great many commercial offerings are not suitable for purpose or are downright dangerous.

As a general rule:

  • "biodiesel processors" listed on popular auction sites are often not fit for purpose and should be avoided (even the nice-looking ones that cost £2500+).
  • processors should not expose the user to methanol fumes
  • processors should not allow methanol fumes to go near any equipment that may generate heat (immersion heater elements) or sparks (switches or motors)
  • processors built out of plastic conical vessels or plastic drums present a far greater fire risk than those made out of metal

Excellent advise on processors can be sought on the vegetableoildiesel forums. We would strongly encourage a prospective buyer to post there asking about a potential purchase before parting with their hard earned cash.


Things to check on your quest for a good bioDiesel machine.

  • Is the machine safe? An open topped drum used for making biodiesel is most definately not safe. It will generate methanol vapour fumes that are both highly tovic and explosively flammable like petrol!
  • Even if the machine has a lid, is it permanent and airtight? Methanol vapour will escape into your workspace if not.
Result of over heating where an immersion heater is mounted directly in a HDPE processor.
  • Is the processor vessel metal? This is important as heat is involved with making biodiesel which, combined with oil and the other indredients used, can soften and crack many plastics over time including HDPE, causing leaks at joints or worse complete splitting of the vessel.
  • How is the oil heated? Are there any failsafe devices to prevent the heater operating when the liquid level is low? The danger here is that the heater element will become exposed, overheat, start to glow and ignite oil or methanol vapour in the vessel. The result of this can be very dramatic. This has happened many times over the years with inferior designed plant!
  • Beware of any claims of an automated machine. Even so-called 'automated machines' need a lot of hands-on work.
  • How much 'hands-on' time is needed to make fuel?
  • Does the machine do the whole job of making the fuel? Most base model equipment does not without the addition of expensive add-on items. The making of the fuel is only half the job. Raw, just-made biodiesel will not be suitable for use in any vehicle or engine. The issues are, it will contain excess methanol and soaps. Both of which can cause serious issues if used in an engine.
  • What system of fuel purification is included with the machine?
  • What quality is the finished fuel? Has any testing been done on fuel made in that actual design?
  • Is there any after-sales training included in the price, and ongoing help from the suppliers?


And Finally, don't buy a machine from an internet auction site, as some of the items there are extremely hazardous and you will have no come-back if you have trouble

If you are going to buy a ready made machine, always buy it from a reputable supplier who has experience in the field, who will train you properly and give ongoing assistance.