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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2011, 11:44:43 PM »
Oh dear ... I thought I had it sussed out.

I have the letters V5 a little a stray (it's still work in progress)  V5 is intended to be "spits on the ground" valve at the bottom.

That said I don't see how "spits on the ground" can be oil in ... it's connected to the discharge of the pump.  Or are you using a PTO on one of the tanks in the battalion to run a pump to pump it in?

Surely everything, including oil, must go in via V2, it's the only one connected to the pump suction.

This is where I'm at with the graphic.  If you wish I'll remove the upstand after V2.






With regard to helping those less fortunate than myself (the GLophobes) I'm only too happy to share the knowledge gained in build in building GL's.

I look at it a bit like 3rd world aid.


V5 is teed down from V6 and is bio out there is a pipe and V8 missing,Julian have a look at my original sketch

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2011, 11:54:08 PM »
The V8 shown above should be below the bottom pipe and is the wvo feed in and the V5 on the bend needs removing,Jesus this is confusing me :D,its pretty simple when your looking at the machine but in 2D its hard,i think my orig sketch is still ok but needs Julians site valve and pressure valve updates adding
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2011, 12:05:04 AM »
yes im loosing it lo hahaha

what is confusing it is the feed in to tam is a T for good oil from one side and other side is bio bottom dome in reality so looking back and forth at pic and drawing is odd for me

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2011, 12:11:39 AM »
the site tube i would plug the bottom of to seal and keep top fitting

at the bottom of the pipe put an elbow and pipe over to left to feed into pump (plenty room on horizontal pipe for valve too)

although this puts a valve on air vent/site tube then hmmm not good, so need to make a vent somewhere? and use site tube for site tube only.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2011, 12:11:55 AM »
Just another spanner in the works ... do you really need a sight tube if the drum's a clip top?  Apart from Bio processing (when you wouldn't want to), you can just lift the lid and look inside.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2011, 12:14:22 AM »
Ive just compared the 2 and thats all i can spot thats wrong,if V8 and pipe is removed and put below the bottom pipe then that is the 2 feeds in to the pump and if V5 is taken off the bend and teed down from V6 it should make sense,i hope
RM,i will take your pics tomorrow
RM won the argument over having a site tube and its useful for stting the level,maybe optional :D

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #66 on: June 17, 2011, 12:25:58 AM »

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #67 on: June 17, 2011, 12:43:10 AM »
Ok ...

I put V5 where it is just to make the drawing look pretty.  Technically it still does exactly the same job as the KH original sketch.

V8 was put where it is to save the need for the link pipe.  Think we discussed it in an email.

Paul ...

What you've drawn is exactly what I drew.

Your V5 and my V5 connect to the pump discharge with no other valves in the way.

Your V8 and my V8 connect to the pump suction with no other valves in the way.  You show pipes crossing which might get a little confusing for some people.

Schematically the drawings are identical.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #68 on: June 17, 2011, 12:47:47 AM »
i know julian they both same

trouble is we are all trying to get something that cant be got in a 2d drawing, i know you dont want cross over pipes, spiols look,

trying to match real thing and on a pic will get very messy and hard to read/understand so i think the easy way will be to go with yours, although pipes dont look like the real thing they are, its down to the builder to plumb where they want in theory it works, so all good...

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2011, 01:03:10 AM »
Yes, I guess it's a bit like the tube map.  It's nothing like the actual routes or distances, it's just a representation, but it's easy to follow.

Same applies to the relief valve for bio delivery.  Both designs do the same thing your original just used more pipe work and had the settling/holding tank in the circuit.

Keith ...

Think I've got it now, but do you want settling tank called a settling tank or a holding tank?  Your original sketches said settling.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #70 on: June 17, 2011, 01:21:36 AM »
Probably not going to be very popular for this, but I just had another look at the schematic and ...

Now you have introduced a second relief valve for fuel delivery and it now bypasses the pump, I have a suspicion that you don't need the original relief valve, which relieves back to the tank.

Again, releiving back to the tank might stir up the crud in the bottom.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #71 on: June 17, 2011, 08:33:38 AM »
I know we discussed it but it was making you think there was no way to suck the oil in with it,the above pic is close but the V8 pipe work needs to continue to the right and that connect to the bottom of the holding tank for oil in,the permanant pipe linking V1 to V8 which Julian suggested early on (ta Julian) needs a valve in the middle.
 No oil comes in via the 15mm v2 and as this is the drawing for wvo  lose the meth in description as it is used for samples (out) in wvo mode and will confuse things
Tossed a coin-holding tank

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2011, 09:38:07 AM »
just woke up but try a new pic as you say K see what you think gis 5 mins...

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2011, 12:41:30 PM »
Lose the word methoxide in wvo mode it is oil sample out,there is a valve on the link pipe going down from V1 to V8 (Julians link pipe)as this only comes into play on the bio side and V8 needs to be to the right of the down pipe which stops the holding tank flowing into the pump,clear as mud  :D