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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2011, 08:00:22 PM »
yeah no worries kieth its excactly the same route but shows what pipes are used better in that loop for dispenser, i just used all the loop instead of that bottom corner, maybe better for people building to see whats going on with that part...

just a thought?

on that complex system now im lost  ???
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2011, 08:08:38 PM »
Ok solid red is dispensing route,dotted is what happens when you shut the nozzle,any clearer?




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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2011, 08:16:45 PM »
yup

same as me new drawing but i use the full rooute to aid cooling and visually to a newbie if the valve is over by second tank they see its for that part, but all same, and also its being filtered all the time till nozzle opens...

looking good though

so got all new pics K of full system?

also dont worry on U2U i sent you changed price already...

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2011, 08:23:00 PM »
Doing pics now,plenty more if needed,havnt read any u2u,s not logged in

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2011, 08:32:05 PM »
Altered existing pics,emailing you some others to see if you think they need using

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2011, 08:42:02 PM »
AWESOME

that now looks professional and spot on, even rachael said it looks very nice and professional...

yup thats a peace of kit new pics are very good even got some bio in the site tube... and nice underneath shots and i think covered all angles now...

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2011, 08:44:11 PM »
gotto shoot out back later chappers  ;D

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2011, 10:05:18 AM »
morning all fathers day peeps...

K.H i checked system pics, stick with what you have up there the best me thinks....

now heres one for you!

when the infamous bio rich man does that superb drawing thing he does best, why not like you did above with the red lines mark out 3x systems on the drawing aswell. get 3 pics of it the same and for veg filtering draw out the layout in blue, bio in red, pumping out in green, this is to show what pipes and part the system is used for each phase

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2011, 10:45:35 AM »
Good idea,i think Julian may have mentioned something along those lines anyway,mind you ive caused him enough aggro with just one ;D

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2011, 12:24:23 PM »
No brain freeze, due to no brain!

This is the latest version incorporating all discussions to date (I hope).

I've reverted to an independent sight tube, but added a valve so it can be isolated during Bio making.  Ability to empty tube was probably more trouble than it was worth.

Added V10 so V8 (22mm) can be used for oil suction.

Retained RV1 (shame the temperature rise was as quick as it was when RV2 is working)  Only problem I can see is that when pumping out through V9, both RV's are live and one will lift before the other.  If it's RV2 which lifts first, then the heating issue will still occur.  Are they adjustable?  If so RV2 needs to be set at a higher pressure than RV1.



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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #100 on: June 19, 2011, 01:39:53 PM »
Paul ... that schematic you refer to has got me confused.  Are you creating an anti clockwise circuit via pump, V6 and V9 when dispensing nozzle is closed, and discharging to the car where it says "oil out to car" when it's open?  If thats the case, then yes, I agree it would improve matters.

Lost me on the other points!

In the photo is that a 3 way valve at the bottom of the sight glass, Keith mentioned some about it but I didn't follow that either ... think I'm on an inactive brain week!

The main reason for reverting back to the way it was, was because to see the level via the tube, V3 needs to be open and cruddy oil will collect in quite a large length of pipe work.  Personally I can't see the logic for a sight glass if you are pouring oil into an open topped tank ... you can see the level as you pour it in.  Why would you then need to look at the side of the tank to check the level in the sight tube?

Bit like closing a door, seeing it's shut, then feeling the need to be on the other side to see if that's shut too!

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #101 on: June 19, 2011, 06:25:23 PM »
no worries i was only seeing if we could do it another way

please ignore me  ;D


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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2011, 06:50:17 PM »
No, won't ignore you, it's rude!

I could swap pipes withy V5 and V6 over do away with RV2, then take a pipe from the horizontal pipe to the left of V8, via RV2 round to the pipe between V6 and the filter.

Does that replicate what you were showing previously?
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2011, 07:20:36 PM »
No brain freeze, due to no brain!

This is the latest version incorporating all discussions to date (I hope).

I've reverted to an independent sight tube, but added a valve so it can be isolated during Bio making.  Ability to empty tube was probably more trouble than it was worth.

Added V10 so V8 (22mm) can be used for oil suction.

Retained RV1 (shame the temperature rise was as quick as it was when RV2 is working)  Only problem I can see is that when pumping out through V9, both RV's are live and one will lift before the other.  If it's RV2 which lifts first, then the heating issue will still occur.  Are they adjustable?  If so RV2 needs to be set at a higher pressure than RV1.




Yes they are adjustable the lower one is set high becauce it has the full power of the pump to open it,the top one you adjust as the filters block to keep the pressure at optimum

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2011, 07:29:22 PM »
No, won't ignore you, it's rude!

I could swap pipes withy V5 and V6 over do away with RV2, then take a pipe from the horizontal pipe to the left of V8, via RV2 round to the pipe between V6 and the filter.

Does that replicate what you were showing previously?
Time to leave alone i think :D,Julians last schematic is a good copy of the system,spot on
Its now finished AFAIC,anymore alterations will take it away from the original idea of compactness and all three system have been tested and work,it is a compromise esp on the bio side,how far do i go?,i know every tee and 90 detract from the speed of bio making but?
The schematic has to reflect the actual system yes?