Waxing - a possible cause and solution?

[Tony]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

[nigelb]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I only flush/wash a little bit away. Just the stuff that remains in the raw bio.

The stuff that's left behind in the glyc migrates to the oil in the two glycerine washes I do. So no waste there.

 I think that the time and effort in getting another pump to circulate water in a condensor and putting together an efficient condensor and additional pipework would not be cost effective....for me.

[1958steveflying]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I,m with Tony on that, I am also surprised that most of those that "wash the methanol out" do not accurately test for methanol afterwards.

[K.H]

Still surprises me people will spend hours in a shed to save a few pence, esp your shed 

[nigelb]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I am also surprised that most of those that "wash the methanol out" do not accurately test for methanol afterwards.

I dare say that could be said about most processes

[whatarascal]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I only flush/wash a little bit away. Just the stuff that remains in the raw bio.

The stuff that's left behind in the glyc migrates to the oil in the two glycerine washes I do. So no waste there.

 I think that the time and effort in getting another pump to circulate water in a condensor and putting together an efficient condensor and additional pipework would not be cost effective....for me.

I think all households should be water metered as water washing is wasteful ,no matter how convenient it is to some bio producers.

[nigelb]

I'm with Keith and echo his comments.

In my process with no HMPE or Oliec Acid issues I consider the demeth process redundant. A good water washing method has the ability to remove an awful lot of problems. Mind you feedstock, clearly, is a major here as well.

It still surprises me just how difficult some make it.

Nige
I think it would be great if you put your process from start to finish on wiki or whatever then we could all benefit from your fountain of knowledge.

I think my process is well documented both on here and the VOD.

Try using the search facilities on both sites to get hold of the info you so desperatly require.

 If  the searches fail let me know your email address and I'll send you a full flow chart of my process from start to finish.

Regards

Nige

[nigelb]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I only flush/wash a little bit away. Just the stuff that remains in the raw bio.

The stuff that's left behind in the glyc migrates to the oil in the two glycerine washes I do. So no waste there.

 I think that the time and effort in getting another pump to circulate water in a condensor and putting together an efficient condensor and additional pipework would not be cost effective....for me.

I think all households should be water metered as water washing is wasteful ,no matter how convenient it is to some bio producers.

You're quite right Brian...it can be quite wasteful. I, however, use 40lts of harvested rain water to wash my fuel. No waste here

[K.H]

AFAIK you only need to test the water a couple of times to know roughly how much water it takes until the meth has gone, normally long before the soap has.
Unless someone knows different? I'm not aware of anything that can vary the time the meth stays in the bio
So in my case if I get to soap free I can assume I'm meth free

[whatarascal]

It still surprises me that some people are happy to just flush Methanol away, but there y'go.

I only flush/wash a little bit away. Just the stuff that remains in the raw bio.

The stuff that's left behind in the glyc migrates to the oil in the two glycerine washes I do. So no waste there.

 I think that the time and effort in getting another pump to circulate water in a condensor and putting together an efficient condensor and additional pipework would not be cost effective....for me.

I think all households should be water metered as water washing is wasteful ,no matter how convenient it is to some bio producers.

You're quite right Brian...it can be quite wasteful. I, however, use 40lts of harvested rain water to wash my fuel. No waste here

Sorry mate harvested rainwater dont come into the equation.
That harvested rainwater should go into the ground to help feed us and the plants around us

[Julian]

While people water lawns and wash cars, I certainly won't care about washing my bio

While the water companies waste millions of litres each week through leaks, I too won't care about washing my bio with mains water.

Just imagine if our gas distribution system had the same level of leakage.  Do the water companies care ... of course not because they charge us for the water they leak!

[whatarascal]

While people water lawns and wash cars, I certainly won't care about washing my bio

While the water companies waste millions of litres each week through leaks, I too won't care about washing my bio with mains water.

Just imagine if our gas distribution system had the same level of leakage.  Do the water companies care ... of course not because they charge us for the water they leak!

Why care
cos someone has to

[Head Womble]

I went back to water washing some time ago, and no I don't recover the meths, I've even removed the squirrel.
I do still have my SHHE and quad core condenser but only use that for dewatering really wet oil before gly washing.

I offset the water used by not washing.

Since changing my process I haven't suffered from any waxing, I'm sure it's there but I just haven't suffered from it.

[greasemonkey]

I went back to water washing some time ago, and no I don't recover the meths, I've even removed the squirrel.
I do still have my SHHE and quad core condenser but only use that for dewatering really wet oil before gly washing.

I offset the water used by not washing.

Since changing my process I haven't suffered from any waxing, I'm sure it's there but I just haven't suffered from it.

I waxed my squirrel, then washed it with water. I don't know if it suffered or not.

[K.H]

While people water lawns and wash cars, I certainly won't care about washing my bio

While the water companies waste millions of litres each week through leaks, I too won't care about washing my bio with mains water.

Just imagine if our gas distribution system had the same level of leakage.  Do the water companies care ... of course not because they charge us for the water they leak!

Why care
cos someone has to

Fair comment