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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2013, 04:51:38 PM »
Out of interest how many water washers use mains water and are on a water meter ?
I have recently started water washing with mains water (no meter), but have just had a problem inasmuch as we are not on mains drains...........what does soapy water do to a soakaway?

      What catalyst do you use ?
KOH.

  Between NAoH and KoH I would have thought KoH to be the least harmful, but I would think it would depend on concentrations and volume alongside what is feeding from that soakaway. (you don't want everything within a 10 metre radius dying)

   Hopefully someone on here with have the knowledge to answer your question with some accuracy.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2013, 08:22:23 PM »
Out of interest how many water washers use mains water and are on a water meter ?
I have recently started water washing with mains water (no meter), but have just had a problem inasmuch as we are not on mains drains...........what does soapy water do to a soakaway?

      What catalyst do you use ?
KOH.

  Between NAoH and KoH I would have thought KoH to be the least harmful, but I would think it would depend on concentrations and volume alongside what is feeding from that soakaway. (you don't want everything within a 10 metre radius dying)

   Hopefully someone on here with have the knowledge to answer your question with some accuracy.

Do you mean soakaway or septic tank?  Either way I can't see too much difference between sticking neat bleach in the loo and washing bio.

Have you thought of titrated acid washing?  If you get it right you wash water should pretty much be a neutral pH.


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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2013, 08:49:50 PM »
Too much in a septic tank would upset the balance I would think
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 09:18:53 PM by K.H »

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2013, 08:54:38 PM »
The amount of water in and on the earth has been the same for millions of years, it is either underground on the surface or in the air.
so you can't deplete the amount of water in and on the planet.
77% is salt water. what varies is how its distributed on the planet, so if you waste more you pay more if you are on a meter depending on where you are.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2013, 08:57:38 PM »
bleach is a no no in a septic tank. the bacteria is what breaks down the sludge. so i would think that koh or caustic would have the same effect

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2013, 07:09:09 PM »
Deffo a soakaway.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2013, 05:26:58 PM »
Pure water is used in most commercial plants as part of the polishing process.

If water is a problem why not demeth first then settle then water wash when you get a clear 50/50 that way your fuel will super clean and you could reuse the water for another batch. Plus any waste wash water you do have to dump is not over polluted.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2013, 05:28:58 PM »
You could nutralise the waste water with an acid probable sulphuic as a sulphate is less toxic than a cloride salt.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2013, 05:34:16 PM »
The waste water can hold a bit of bio. I remember Golden Fuels ended up with about a 1000 litres of Bio in their waste water holding tank. The soapy water was all ways drawn off from  the bottom by tanker lorry.

I am sure there was discussion over on info pop (in the old days) about setting a small treatment system that could purify the wash water and reuse it in the process.

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Re: Waxing - a possible cause and solution?
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2013, 08:24:47 PM »
Pure water is used in most commercial plants as part of the polishing process.

If water is a problem why not demeth first then settle then water wash when you get a clear 50/50 that way your fuel will super clean and you could reuse the water for another batch. Plus any waste wash water you do have to dump is not over polluted.

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I agree, with a bit of thought the water can be reused, ie the last cleanish wash water can be used for the prewash and any water can go in a non overflowing tank to get the level up before mist washing