No wonder I've had lumpy starting

[Tony]

I thought I had some other problem than glow plugs, because they were all drawing 45A through the relay, which showed they were all working.

Today having tried everything else I took them out and stuck them across the battery.  Here's one of 'em, the cheeky bugger



No use glowing at the body and not the tip now is it!

[McDuff]

You were lucky - hot tip could have dropped onto piston

[Tony]

Eeek - hadn't even thought of that!

[McDuff]

EXPENSIVE

[Tony]

Err yeah even second hand 4m40s for the Delica are the best part of a grand 

[nigelb]

I've had some real bad fortune with Jayne's Golf today. I bought 4 new Duraterm glow plugs last week because of a poor starting problem she's experienced.

I thought a couple of weeks ago that the issue was the battery because 3 turns on the key and the battery was dead. With the boost of a power pack it stated straight away. However, the new battery has failed to solve the issues. Hence the glow plugs.

I managed to remove No's 1, 3 and 4 but no2 came out without the bit that glows. That is stuck inside the cylinder head. How the hell do i get that out with out removing the cylinder head.

Bravely....or stupidly I fired up the engine hoping that the glow bit would be blown from its hole. The engine ran for half an hour (up to operating temperature)and it is still stuck solid. .

My worry is that it will drop into the combustion chamber and stuff the engine completely.

What options do I have here?

[McDuff]

Can you get an extractor into it - looks like a tap with a reversed thread

[nigelb]

The only bit left in there is the ceramic end...ie the part that glows. The rest came out real easy.

I can only assume that it's being held in place by carbon deposits.

[greasemonkey]

Nigel, if a brand new battery died that quick, you've got another problem somewhere. Have you actually tested the battery?
Take a carefull look at the wiring, pull the heavy lead off the back of the starter and clean the lead and the bolt it fits on to.

Are you sure the battery is not being drained by a parasitic drain?

And to all you with glow plug problems, I say, FIT A FLAME PLUG!

[nigelb]

I've not made myself clear on the battery issue. It was the old battery that died on three turns of the key....not the new one. Because the battery did not solve the problems I moved my attention to the glow plugs.

What's a flame plug?

[greasemonkey]

With you now nige.

This is a flame plug.
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,819.0.html

[Rotary-Motion]

its prolly decomposed by now to dust and blown out, as that end could of been off weeks months, you maybe safe

[Dickjotec]

Tony,
What make of plugs are you using, mine tends to go through NGKs in 2 years but they have always completely failed never had one like that.
GM may fit a flame plug to the lister what pressure diesel do they need?
Dick

[greasemonkey]

GM may fit a flame plug to the lister what pressure diesel do they need?
Dick

If you look at the thread, somewhere Julian has found one that needs only 4 or 5 inches of head. The one i've got is designed to  be plumbed into the injector bleed off, so its not working properly, not that I'm bothered at the mo.
I think its a CAV that is unpressurised.
I really need to do more research to get definitive answers.

[McDuff]

I thought they fitted into the inlet manifold to heat the fuel prior to injection