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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2013, 09:17:14 PM »
As always it comes down to an enthusiastic bunch of amateurs flailing around in the dark.  A bit like the HMPE / wax issue.  Many of us have experienced them, but if we could find out exactly what the hell they were, we might stand a fighting chance of eradicating them.

Similar issue here ... if we could get this stuff analysed we might be in a position of being able to prevent it.

Tony, some time back you mentioned similar stuff dropping out of bio that you'd bounced around in cubies for a while ... recon there's a connection?

The idea of getting these waxes tested is exactly what I put forward a while ago and got ridiculed for suggesting.  I'm with you!  Once we understand what it is, we have a chance of dealing with it!

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2013, 09:26:54 PM »
As always it comes down to an enthusiastic bunch of amateurs flailing around in the dark.  A bit like the HMPE / wax issue.  Many of us have experienced them, but if we could find out exactly what the hell they were, we might stand a fighting chance of eradicating them.

Similar issue here ... if we could get this stuff analysed we might be in a position of being able to prevent it.

Tony, some time back you mentioned similar stuff dropping out of bio that you'd bounced around in cubies for a while ... recon there's a connection?

The idea of getting these waxes tested is exactly what I put forward a while ago and got ridiculed for suggesting.  I'm with you!  Once we understand what it is, we have a chance of dealing with it!

I reckon the only connection is demething and it's probably time that those who suffer with this dig deep into their pockets and put an end to it.

I don't think that those who have their process nailed down with water washing as a final process have any thing to be concerned about.

However, those with deep enough pockets could always show me the error of my ways.

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2013, 09:38:11 PM »
Wonder if water washing reduces it ... I've only comparatively recently moved to water washing, as has Mark.  Tony to the best of my knowledge doesn't water wash, but may have seen it in transported cubies.

Any long term water washers remember seeing anything similar sitting on top of a filter when changing?

IMHO water washing completely irradicates any sort of deposits.

The only time I've ever seen any sort of glycerine type deposits was when I dipped my toes into WBD a few years ago. It was then that I saw floating deposits (HMPE's probably) and brown glycerine type deposits on the bottom of my 25lt storage containers.  In the last few years I've seen nothing of the the sort since returning to tried and trusted water washing methods.

Continue with demething cause I love to repeat the same old message. Nothing gives me greater pleasure. ;)  ;D


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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2013, 09:43:26 PM »
"Sometimes we all do knobby things!" quote from my wife.(2.3.13)

Not in this abode, she's past that sort of thing.it's an age thing y'know.

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2013, 09:47:07 PM »
"Sometimes we all do knobby things!" quote from my wife.(2.3.13)

Not in this abode, she's past that sort of thing.it's an age thing y'know.

Perhapes if you spent more time at home instead of at the skunk werks she'd do some knobby things for you. ;D

Ask nicely and I'll tell you about the quote. ;)

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2013, 09:55:05 PM »
Ok, I'm asking nicely then, but I reckon it has something to do with what you did/done.   ;D

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2013, 10:04:50 PM »
Ok, I'm asking nicely then, but I reckon it has something to do with what you did/done.   ;D

Yeah..it was something I did. Having filled the reactor with 150lts of oil...some of it rather cruddy..from the top, without the lid on I proceded to skim some of the fine foody bits off the top with a tea strainer. The oil was hot and being pumped around when I dropped the strainer inside. I had to drain the oil out to retrieve the seive. Having explained to Jayne what a knob I'd been....she come out with the quote in my sig :D
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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2013, 10:08:02 PM »
There are times when I think that Loretta is right in what she does :)

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2013, 10:31:25 PM »
There are times when I think that Loretta is right in what she does :)

Does Jane know about this Loretta bird?

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2013, 10:34:24 PM »

and there is no deposits on it,

What are these "no deposits" that you say there is ? Mark

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2013, 11:02:17 PM »

and there is no deposits on it,

What are these "no deposits" that you say there is ? Mark

Ok, Ok, there are no deposits on it. 
Happy now  ::)
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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2013, 11:38:13 PM »

and there is no deposits on it,

What are these "no deposits" that you say there is ? Mark

Ok, Ok, there are no deposits on it. 
Happy now  ::)

Mark your just doing this to confuse me.  :'(

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Re: Injection pump gummed up
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2013, 08:17:53 AM »
in that picture I only have the metal part left as I have stripped the paper circular filter off, so all oil can still go through the RM mod warmer than usual, metal part is needed in the housing to seal the top cover cap from leaking air (for non pug runners info) I have a sausage filter after the heated filter housing (keeps my sausage filter clean warm) and before IP pump.

so what I am saying is my car has had 1000's of miles driving with oil going over and around this original modded steel part of filter and when I get time I will check her out for you and take some pictures, I used to change the original filters every 3000 miles as I used to get slow down in acceleration, but not any more with the new system sausage filter... like brand new every journey. 45k on the pump and 30k on the steel filter head so should be a good indicator of the gum gum if its there, NOTE I run veg only!