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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 02:48:50 PM »
Which bit would leak with the clip top? Would a bead of silicon seal it? I've got some great rtv that is bio proof.

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 10:30:29 PM »
I think i may of siliconed the drum seal,i cant really remember,if the 20 isnt enough they are stackable so i can make another to increase its volume and maybe decrease the hole sizes,pretty much a work in progress but im sure i could iron out most problems as /if you find them

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2012, 10:32:28 PM »
Just got back and there it was waiting safely - thanks Nige!

Yes you did silicone the seal, looks pretty good actually.  Bit of compressed air reveals a small hiss from somewhere so will hunt that down tomorrow evening and seal it up :)

Looking forward to testing, have a batch waiting to drywash now :)

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2012, 05:15:23 PM »
Pleased to have been a position to help Tony. Timing was spot on for us. Got to your place at 12.30 and was over at Lymington in plenty of time for our ferry.

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2012, 08:15:39 PM »
Yes thanks again Nige :)

Unfortunately not tried it yet as had some other pressing emergencies (sink waste exploded and flooded the kitchen - eww!) but very much looking forward to a bit of new style drywashing :)

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2012, 08:40:00 PM »
Done some testing with this with some good and bad news - will post some pics up later :)

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2012, 09:16:03 PM »
After a little playing about I got it to seal air-tight (so I could blow into the inlet with the outlet blocked without a hiss of air).  Good to go!

Charging with woodshavings.



In action:



(I ended up soldering a 90 bend on the outlet to stop it splashing out of the drum)

However, very quickly the flow started to reduce - way before the sawdust would normally be spent.  Not to worry, I though, it's sealed OK and the pump can push a little pressure.  Bear in mind the pump only does 4.5lpm or so.

There were a few alarming *boing* sounds as the top and bottom dished out under pressure... but that was OK as it was all still sealed at that point, no leaks.

Then it started to leak by the clamp handle.  I moved it around and the leak followed where the clamp handle was.  So, I though, I'll just squish the clamp in the vice a bit so it squeezes the lid down a little tighter.  What I should've done it just do the bit by the clamp, not the whole circle.

Consequently it was rather a tight fit, and I've only gone and sheered off the tag of metal that pulls on the clamp ring :(  Will have a crack at welding it but I'm not hopeful for success (it's tiny).

Anyway, I made a right mess doing all of this.

Here's how the top dished out under pressure - the bottom is the same.



I wonder if the clamps on the drums max.print has are compatible?

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2012, 09:33:46 PM »
Just shout if you want a couple Tony.  :)

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 02:31:13 PM »
Yes please mate, whereabouts are you based?  Or do you ever travel past the Hedge End junction of the M27 during the working day?

It's definitely worth pursuing for drywash purposes.

Keith how did you seal the original lid hole?  Looks like a deft bit of welding on inspection - not sure I'm quite up to that standard with my welding.

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »
I should keep quiet and leave you impressed with my welding :)
But unfortunately i have to admit its..................................................................solder!

BTW i think you idea of moving the parts over to a plastic screwtop drum may be a solution to one problem

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2012, 09:33:12 PM »
Forgot all about the screwtop - I wonder what pressure it would take to pop the thread on the lid?  Only one way to find out!

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2012, 10:13:39 PM »
Yes please mate, whereabouts are you based?  Or do you ever travel past the Hedge End junction of the M27 during the working day?

It's definitely worth pursuing for drywash purposes.

Keith how did you seal the original lid hole?  Looks like a deft bit of welding on inspection - not sure I'm quite up to that standard with my welding.

PM me your address Tony and i'll post you a couple of lids without holes and the clips. They look identical to me so there's a fighting chance that they'll fit.

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2012, 10:43:34 PM »
Much appreciated :)  But - I'll try the screw top first - at least that doesn't cost anything.  If it doesn't work then it's back to the clip tops!

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2012, 09:49:58 AM »
Transferred all the bits to the 30l screw top but despite having a nice rubber seal in the lid, it leaks under pressure.  Given that the steel drums dish out with pressure and the screw tops don't seem to seal that well, I think I need a 15-20l plastic clamp top for this job. Do they come that small?

By the way, Keith, what glue did you use to hold the drain mesh onto the fitting? Looks like good stuff - it's very tidy!
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 09:53:30 AM by tony »

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Re: 20 litre drum wash tower
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2012, 10:12:42 AM »
I've never been able to get a good seal on those screwtops, to the point now that I only use them for palm and solids.

The smallest plastic cliptop I've ever seen is a 30ltr.

Other than needing extra medium to fill it, is there a problem with increasing the capacity to 30ltr or is it just that you need more space for it?