£1.50 WOW

[Mr Tickle]

My local Tesco today 1.49 for Derv just wow. 

Is it just me or is anyone else feeling a little smug since the prices skyrocketed?

I wonder if Richy will put up the fuel duty this afternoon too?

[Chug]

money grabbing barstewards, it went up coz of panic and demand but I bet it won't go back down.

[Head Womble]

Now rewind to the beginning of the first lockdown, when it was just over £1 a litre, supply and demand that's all it is.
Wish I still run on bio   

[nigelb]

I remember those days...fuelling up the van at just over £1.00 per litre. It was great...driving south on the M1 and i was the only vehicle on the the road...happy days. Now we have 4 lanes of people with shit for brains banging into each other or trying to get to where they want to at 90mph. Ah well!!

[nigelb]

money grabbing barstewards, it went up coz of panic and demand but I bet it won't go back down.

Bet it will. As you say.... demand. When that drops so does the price of oil.

Having said that...the price of toilet rolls didn't reach new heights and neither did pasta!!!

Strange world we live in. I love it.

[Tony]

money grabbing barstewards, it went up coz of panic and demand but I bet it won't go back down.

Exactly...

That and there's the incentive to push people to buy electric cars.  And heat pumps (even though best case efficiency they are more expensive to run per kWh of heat than even the least efficient gas boiler).  And of course, wood burners are evil now because of particulate emissions, so don't be thinking you'll just burn pallets, offcuts and logs to stay warm.

Interesting times ahead.

[photoman290]

a really effiencent rocket stove will keep you warm for a month on one pallet. donkey32 is the place to look. rocket stove obsessives over there. even worse than us in our heyday.

[neisel]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/fuel-prices-petrol-prices-steve-gooding-rac-foundation-b963844.html

[Tony]

Interesting page on the rocket stove here:
https://jizoku.co.uk/2019/03/23/whats-the-most-sustainable-way-to-heat-a-house/

I like the idea of building it into a house like that, but not the having to diligently tend the wood feed.  At least with a wood burner you fling some logs in and leave it for quite a while.

I wonder if we will all be expected to fit electrostatic particulate filters to our wood burner flues?
https://woodstovefilter.co.uk/

[dgs]

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I wonder if we will all be expected to fit electrostatic particulate filters to our wood burner flues?
https://woodstovefilter.co.uk/
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Its the fitting of DPF's that I'm worried about. It will probably mean we can't burn logs in them anymore.

[Mr Tickle]

DPF's  i've had enough trouble with those on cars!

It looks like a good idea in principle and i'm sure will appease the greenies, but as we all know it will be rushed out to us, badly implemented, cost a fortune, will stop us burning "normal firewood" make the heat output less and most importantly will require replacing every few years when it inevitably fails!!

Anyways at My tesco Diesel is now 1.52.

i wonder when we will hit the £2 litre mark?

[nigelb]

Could somebody explain something about dpf's for me. I understand that the filter collect and store the particles. When the regen takes place the burnt particles are then "re burnt" to make smaller particles and it is then pumped out for folk to breath in. Is that right or am I missing something?

[knighty]

Could somebody explain something about dpf's for me. I understand that the filter collect and store the particles. When the regen takes place the burnt particles are then "re burnt" to make smaller particles and it is then pumped out for folk to breath in. Is that right or am I missing something?

that's right

it's a filter in the exhaust that catches crap

once it starts to plug up, ECU waits till engine/exhaust is up to temperature then injects a bit of diesel on the exhaust stroke sending some unburnt diesel down the exhaust

unburnt diesel gets to the dpf and burns, burning the crap the it has caught

[Keef]

Drove past an Esso yesterday that had diesel at a mere 151•9 a litre 

[DavidA]

Same sort of price around York yesterday.