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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2015, 10:18:47 PM »
Gedsjeep, the nylon type ones are sold on ebay by someone calling himself force10skodaboy, I'll see if I can get a link.

                                  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sock-filter-bag-1micron-Vegetable-oil-WVO-Biodiesel-/131594107132?hash=item1ea39eb8fc

yeah, thats diy surgeon. i was under the mistaken impression that they were polyester, as in the smooth type that greasemonkey mentioned, but it turns out they are polyester felt.

what the difference it between them and filterbagman`s i dont know.

after a lot of digging it seems you can only get nylon mesh down to 10 micron. (easily anyways)

so, again, do i try the nylon mesh and run the car at 10 micron, or buy more felt bags (5 mic) and put up with the akward cleaning.

unless anyone has compared the two types?
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2015, 10:20:21 PM »
What sewing machines are you into?
I sews them up wiv me old Singer. Marvellous old things, got two now. When funds allow, I intend forming a choir of them......

Not really into sewing machines, me and them have never quite seen eye to eye.  For someone who loves all things mechanical and has immense reverence for their complexity and brilliant design, I always manage to somehow bugger them up!

Not sure what the machine is.  It's some fancy Japanese thing that does a thousand different stitches, bought for the domestic authorities just after we were married and while I was still under the naive delusion that it would be used to manufacture all the soft furnishings for the house we were renovating.

The reality of the situation was that it got used to make one pair of curtains, since when only I have ever used it!

Oh, if only I knew then what I know now!

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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2015, 10:28:06 PM »
What sewing machines are you into?
I sews them up wiv me old Singer. Marvellous old things, got two now. When funds allow, I intend forming a choir of them......

Not really into sewing machines, me and them have never quite seen eye to eye.  For someone who loves all things mechanical and has immense reverence for their complexity and brilliant design, I always manage to somehow bugger them up!

Not sure what the machine is.  It's some fancy Japanese thing that does a thousand different stitches, bought for the domestic authorities just after we were married and while I was still under the naive delusion that it would be used to manufacture all the soft furnishings for the house we were renovating.

The reality of the situation was that it got used to make one pair of curtains, since when only I have ever used it!

Oh, if only I knew then what I know now!

 Yeah leave it to wifey and buy yourself a big shed instead.

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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2015, 10:33:40 PM »
Ah, I love 'um. Made heaps of stuff, and need to make more. It was the fascination of the mechanical bit that got me into them, then I just had to see what they would do....

If my caravan ever goes up in flames, it'll be sewing machine through the window, followed by my safe, then me.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2015, 10:34:39 PM »
oh my....

about 5 miles from me...

http://www.plastok.co.uk/
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2015, 10:38:35 PM »
oh my....

about 5 miles from me...

http://www.plastok.co.uk/

Looks like they really know what they are talking about. Good find.

That's mega interesting.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2015, 11:10:16 PM »
they are my new best friends  8)
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2015, 11:10:45 PM »
oh my....

about 5 miles from me...

http://www.plastok.co.uk/

Good find.  This sounds rather good ...

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SORBTEX

Specialist felt SORBTEX ia a new, highly water absorbent fibre made into a yarn which will retain water under pressure and maintain its structure without collapsing. The yarn, which can be a blend of absorbent fibre/viscose/nylon and polyester, will absorb up to fifty times its own weight of water, sidcriminating against non-aqueous liquids. It is a virtually non-hazardous product, exhibiting very low toxicity, and can be used safely against the skin.

PlastOk convert these yarns into woven or knitted fabrics, or accumulate them to for thick tows or ropes. They can also be contained in porous tubes and covers, made into felts or produced in cartridge form for continuous water separatation.

Suggested uses include;

• containment of loose water into handleable packs / form

• blocking of water ingress by sweling and sealing.

• water ingress alarm – swelling creates an increase in air pressure in a confined space / pneumatic alarm.

• swelling creates a conductive path

• swelling activates a mechanical switch

• absorbtion of water – stabilising, preventing out of balance forces (swilling, sloshing)

• control of consendate by absorbtion

absorbtion of water in fuel storage tanks

• water accumulator mats for de-frosting.

Wonder if it would work on Veg oil and bio?

I started looking at coalescing filters but it would seem the only handle free water ... perhaps this is the same.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2015, 11:14:48 PM »
Yeah, I saw that too. Reckon it would only absorb free water, but could be wrong.

A small micron metal mesh filter would be really cool. Swill it out, and off to go again.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2015, 11:47:49 PM »
they say they will provide a small sample for testing....



list any questions and i`ll head over there.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2015, 12:08:05 AM »
A sample of the Sorbtex would be good.  I'm sure DGS wouldn't mind running tests with his equipment if it's likely to do more than just free water.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2015, 09:08:45 AM »
Filter bags USA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sewn-Industrial-Filter-Sock-Bags-Water-Liquid-Biodiesel-WVO-Oil-Dust-Fuel-Diesel-/231354514757?var=&hash=item35ddcdbd45

Not used the 10u but as above they are very good for cleaning.
There are others on the site (Didn't pay that shipping cost!)
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2015, 10:46:12 AM »
I sent my mother off to the charity shop to get some thick duvet covers and turned them into filters

hung them inside 205 litre drums suspended ontop of an IBC so the clean oil drained down into the IBC

each filter used to hold about 200 liters (or something close to that)

it was fantastic... I used to fill them up with a pump and a hose and then forget about them... most of the oil would filter overnight, the rest would filter over a few days

fill the filters and forget about them... a few days later there's 800 liters filtered and ready to use
(I didn't do any other filtering after that, straight into work vans)

if you made yourself a big filter like that, you could filter ~200litres a time through it, and then pump through your other filters... which it should fly through ?

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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2015, 08:59:46 PM »
A sample of the Sorbtex would be good.  I'm sure DGS wouldn't mind running tests with his equipment if it's likely to do more than just free water.

No problem, would be interesting stuff.
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Re: time for a change.
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2015, 10:10:29 PM »
they say they will provide a small sample for testing....



list any questions and i`ll head over there.

I'd be interested to know pretty much the same as you. A ball park figure for a filter that would hold 40 odd litres of wvo, Maybe to sit atop a 45 gallon drum, and perhaps 6 inches deep. Something good and strong with will take a bit of a battering, maybe with 10mic and another with 5 mic holes.
Ask them about corrugated stuff, lot more holes per area.
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