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"Corrupted" diesel
« on: September 22, 2014, 02:13:25 PM »
New one on me!

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11486602.UPDATE__Probe_as_scores_of_motorists_face_huge_repair_bills_after_filling_up_with__contaminated__diesel_at_Tesco_Branksome/

So many thousands of pounds to fix... surely a filter swap out job most of the time?  What could be in the fuel to do that much damage?  Abrasives?

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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 02:23:33 PM »
Love some of the comments

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My mate Tommy Onions makes his own fuel in a blender from lighter fluid, walnuts, yogurt and listerine mouthwash.
His Ford Transit is a bit on the slow side but it always leaves a lovely smell when he passes by our house.

This one at least has some interesting info in it:

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I was one of the motorists that filled up on Thursday! 12.30pm

Drove 130 miles from Poole to Devon and then the troubles set in. This is the exact amount give or take a few miles I already had left in the tank according to the trip computer.

For some reason the "diesel" I filled the rest of the tank with does not blend with the rest of the diesel in the tank.

It sits on top, and once the good diesel had been used the van would not run at all on the stuff I had previously filled up with.

Once the AA turnt up, we siphoned it out and it was bright yellow.
It smelt like linseed oil...

After a 12 hour trip back to London on 3 recovery veichles, my van is at the garage now. Im awaiting to hear what the exact problem is.

I have already had the tank drained and refilled with different diesel but no luck! This is much more of a serious problem then just dumping all of the rubbish diesel out!

Sounds like something polar that won't mix with oil.  But also less dense than oil - very curious.

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We have had a customer, who had his car recovered to us over the weekend after breakdown. And this has been caused by contaminated diesel from
Tesco, Branksome.

It smells like turpentine and not diesel. As this car is a 10 year Renault clio
it is more than likely going to be scrap.
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 05:10:22 PM »
I could do with a new fuel system, anyone know what a Tesco fuel bill looks like ... I'm rather handy with graphics software!
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 05:59:36 PM »
Interesting stuff. Odd how so many peeps know it's going to cost 5 grand to fix, but not one of them can give an accurate explanation of what the problem is.

This sounds like a likely scenario.

"This is an issue with a tanker cleaning solution being left in contaminating the diesel which is negligence on behalf of Tesco.
The issue about Tesco diesel being of poorer quality than branded is a different discussion. it must meet minimum standards. The premium diesels have additives such as Cetane improver and BUTOXYETHANOL which is an injector cleaner."

And it looks like the Tesco shills have found the comments section

"A lot of misinformation or misguided belief in many of the comments here. There is nothing wrong with the quality of Tesco fuels, and it does not come from any old refinery, whichever is the cheapest, as has been suggested. All Tesco fuel is sourced from a single refinery in, I believe Essex; the name of the company is Greenergy and they have an exclusive contact to supply Tesco. Their fuel is actually to the highest standards, and unlike some companies, they publish data sheets about their products which can be accessed online. Tesco super unleaded is actually to a higher standard, with an octane rating of 99, than most other company's equivalent except for Shell. These engine problems are solely the result of bad "housekeeping" at the Branksome filling station which has resulted in a contaminant getting into the fuel; as such it is obviously for Tesco to sort out this particular problem, but the quality of the fuels generally should not be questioned!"

Seems the knifes are out for Tesco, what with the inflated profit warning, and suspended directors this morning.
Still wouldn't mind a day of their profits though.
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 08:34:23 PM »
Is nothing sacred, we have corrupt politicians, corrupt pharmaceutical companies now corrupt diesel, what or whoever next. 

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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 09:02:34 PM »
I wonder how much of it is down to the lack of fuel tolerance of modern diesel engines.
I suspect a lot of drivers of older cars could have filled up with the stuff and not noticed and real problem but the flakey, fussy Ford and Renault diesels have spat their toys out of the pram (they seem to like doing that on diesel anyway, so any contamination will certainly upset them).

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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 09:49:46 PM »
By all accounts there was some bright yellow liquid floating on the tank diesel, what would do that?  Some form of alcohol used for cleaning?  Is methanol miscible with diesel?

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 10:12:22 PM »
One of the comments, that sounded a bit more enlightened than most of them, said the liquid was not mixing with the diesel, but sitting on top of it.
One would have thought that a cleaning fluid would mix readily with the diesel, but then it might not have been cleaning fluid to clean diesel out anyway.
Anyones guess. You would have thought that someone would have come out with a good answer by now though. It can't be that difficult.
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 02:24:20 PM »
One lady is blaming it on biodiesel already, with no evidence...

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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 03:36:02 PM »
It would seem that Tesco Tax Stations aren't doing too well at the moment ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-18503084

That will be a nice supply of missfuel for someone!
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 03:57:57 PM »
The Branksome one seems to have finally been blamed on leaving chemicals used to clean the tanker in the tanker and mixing it with diesel.  It's destroyed the forecourt pumps as well, they're digging up the forecourt now too!
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 04:13:58 PM »
If the cleaning fluid is that aggressive, it make you wonder if it's possible to "completely" drain a tanker and if any sneaks into fuel in small quantities?

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 06:16:49 PM »
It makes me wonder why they have to clean the tankers with anything. Both Petrol and Diesel are pretty good cleaning agents without any help and they are miscible with each other so a bit of petrol left when filling up with diesel, or vice versa doesn't strike me as a huge problem.

It would be interesting to know what on earth they are using though, it must be pretty nasty to kill the forecourt pumps as well.
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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 09:46:05 PM »
Quite, perhaps they spray the inside down with some abrasives?  Who knows.  Doesn't sound like any kind of good idea to me!

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Re: "Corrupted" diesel
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2014, 07:19:20 AM »
Hi all
I think Friday was a bad day for fuel deliveries as I was called out to a farm that had 18 Ibc`s of bio delivered and pumped them all in a tank only to discover that number 17 was actually  900L 30% asm , by the time I got there the whole tank was going solid and one vehicle tank completely set. All sorted now but it was a long weekend.
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