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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #105 on: June 19, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »

In the photo is that a 3 way valve at the bottom of the sight glass, Keith mentioned some about it but I didn't follow that either ... think I'm on an inactive brain week!
This is not for the schematic just explaining how it works
I always use one of these on top of my GL carbouy vent


this attatches to the meth in pipe

On the actual sight tube i swapped the bottom 90 for a "ball fix" 90 ,so it can be isolated
then directly above that 90 i put one of these,same type but a tee


with me so far?

So when the level is set,isolate sight tube with the ball fix valve

Attatch meth in pipe (which as we know sucks)

Flick pump on for a few secs

oil is sucked out

Geddit?

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #106 on: June 19, 2011, 09:58:54 PM »
GL carbouy vent ... Hmmm

I know this will cone as quite a shock, but not everybody uses GL designs.

The vents have always seemed over complicated to me and I've never used them.

Appreciate you taking the time to explain, but I'm still having trouble understanding the arrangement!

Does the schematic need any further changes to accommodate the arrangement I don't understand?
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #107 on: June 19, 2011, 10:08:18 PM »
As said it was just for info,no changes needed ,,fine as is
Ok i will try again,basic version  ;D ,i take the meth sucky pipe,in sucky mode and stick it in the sight tubey,and bobs your uncle sucks the oil out into tank
Not everybody uses the GL design? blasphemer!,stone him!,blessed are the cheesemakers

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #108 on: June 19, 2011, 10:38:44 PM »
So it's not hard piped, you do it manually?
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #109 on: June 19, 2011, 11:21:05 PM »
Yes,manually

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #110 on: June 20, 2011, 09:53:07 PM »
Tony or Julian any chance of changing the page title? i was going with "3 in 1 processor" but Julian i see youve been labelling the diagrams "multi tasking" is that something you prefer? im happy with either

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #111 on: June 20, 2011, 11:34:47 PM »
Happy to change it to whatever you want, it's your baby and your decision, just let me know.

You could go for the "KH processor"  in a few years it'll become the GLophobes standard bit of kit.  Fame will abound, praise will rain down on you from all corners of the globe and .... Hmm perhaps not!

Just uploaded three graphics,  Can anyone reading give them a good look over for silly mistakes like open valves which should be closed, oil where it shouldn't be etc.

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/1/1c/KH_multi_tasking_processor_1.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/04/KH_multi_tasking_processor_2.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/2/25/KH_multi_tasking_processor_3.png

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2011, 09:36:55 AM »
Happy to change it to whatever you want, it's your baby and your decision, just let me know.

You could go for the "KH processor"  in a few years it'll become the GLophobes standard bit of kit.  Fame will abound, praise will rain down on you from all corners of the globe and .... Hmm perhaps not!

Just uploaded three graphics,  Can anyone reading give them a good look over for silly mistakes like open valves which should be closed, oil where it shouldn't be etc.

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/1/1c/KH_multi_tasking_processor_1.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/04/KH_multi_tasking_processor_2.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/2/25/KH_multi_tasking_processor_3.png

firstly brilliant job with drawings and good job on keeping your kool with us chucking stuff at you  ???

from a quick look see, they all good to go, will take a deeper look later....

nice one chap  8)

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2011, 07:06:32 PM »
KH processor? im not even tempted
But i am tempted to ask Tony for a wider range of smillies to annoy you with ;D
I like the ring of Multi tasking as 3 in 1 sort of gives the impression that it does all 3 equally whereas its heavily towards filtering

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/1/1c/KH_multi_tasking_processor_1.png
Could you open V3 pls
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/04/KH_multi_tasking_processor_2.png
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/2/25/KH_multi_tasking_processor_3.png
Both fine,nice one thanks again Julian




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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2011, 07:09:03 PM »
Happy to change it to whatever you want, it's your baby and your decision, just let me know.

You could go for the "KH processor"  in a few years it'll become the GLophobes standard bit of kit.  Fame will abound, praise will rain down on you from all corners of the globe and .... Hmm perhaps not!

Just uploaded three graphics,  Can anyone reading give them a good look over for silly mistakes like open valves which should be closed, oil where it shouldn't be etc.

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/1/1c/KH_multi_tasking_processor_1.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/04/KH_multi_tasking_processor_2.png

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/2/25/KH_multi_tasking_processor_3.png

firstly brilliant job with drawings and good job on keeping your kool with us chucking stuff at you  ???

from a quick look see, they all good to go, will take a deeper look later....

nice one chap  8)


I spotted one last night after I posted.

In pic 2 the sight tube valve is closed when it should be open.  Let me know any other up cocks and I'll make all the alterations at the same time.

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2011, 07:15:25 PM »
KH processor? im not even tempted
But i am tempted to ask Tony for a wider range of smillies to annoy you with ;D
I like the ring of Multi tasking as 3 in 1 sort of gives the impression that it does all 3 equally whereas its heavily towards filtering

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/1/1c/KH_multi_tasking_processor_1.png
Could you open V3 pls
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/04/KH_multi_tasking_processor_2.png
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/2/25/KH_multi_tasking_processor_3.png
Both fine,nice one thanks again Julian


You don't really mean that do you?  What I think you mean is ... with which to annoy you.

KH processor ... you know you want to.   I think we should start our first poll on the wiki forum!

Pic 1 shows the KH processor in Biodiesel mode.  In that mode surely you want to draw from the very bottom of the processor .. or does a KH work on different principals?

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2011, 07:23:23 PM »
To be honest the only time i use the sight valve is to set the level for bio making,then i drain it and it remains closed,well in the two batches so far anyway
Opps a reply while i was typing
Anymore of that and i will use text/chav speak and smillies!
Ok V3,i dont think we need to show this but what i have to do is open V3 and shut V1 for a 5/10 min period to create the suction to get the meth in via V2,in otherwords leave it as it is
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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2011, 07:27:38 PM »
wouldnt pulling from both valves not just bottom aid "agitation" mixing better?  ::)

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2011, 07:48:10 PM »
Ah, good thinking won't that sort of fiddling with valves be clear from the state diagram, showing the valve positions for each of the operations.

I'll try and have a crack at those over the next few days.  They are pure wiki or html code, so I'll probably dump them direct on the page if that's OK with you.  Can I use your original sketches for those or have things changed?

Still unsure of the sight glass requirement, but my thinking was to show it open for all WVO modes and closed for Bio except when loading the feed stock.

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Re: New WVO Dewatering & Filter set up page.
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2011, 11:43:18 PM »
wouldnt pulling from both valves not just bottom aid "agitation" mixing better?  ::)

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

I don't think so.  My guess would be that the one with least resistance would take preference over the other.  Again a guess, but with the glycerol settling in the tank it's density would probably favour the V10 route.

And less of the bloody smilies!
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