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Offline alifreddy

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ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« on: August 26, 2013, 08:22:35 PM »
runs like its starving of fuel at over 2500 rpm in 3rd seems to be more even and ok at high revs with a splash of petrol 2-3 litres per 40 litres of bio in my van

Its a Vauxhall combo 1.7 di done 223k 20 k mostly on svo and dino diesel only recently started using bio due a to a filter or tank filter blockage

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 08:39:50 PM »
If you have recently started using Bio, then you almost certainly will experience a fuel filter blocked. Took me 100 miles. Now it blocks every 350, so I guess it's moved a lot of crap off the walls of the tank.
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 08:41:18 PM »
on its fourth brand new filter. done about 1000 miles

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 08:44:30 PM »
this was bio made in a converted copper hot water tank that used to get very hot just had a tap at the bottom with pipework from the bottom of tank works ok without circulating heated bio round.

I'm just letting another batch I made in my etruk 100 react heated for 1 hour after glyc washing. did 75 litre batch added 14 litres methanol and 640 gs of koh see how it comes out tomorrow
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 08:46:22 PM »
on its fourth brand new filter. done about 1000 miles

Same here. It's still blocking 'um, and I only put 100 litres of bio in it.
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 08:58:47 PM »
am dry washing in hardwood saw fine dust. encouraging to see tds at 0 but still wanna try ion exchange resin as it claims to convert soap to free fatty acids but with a reading of 0tds there is no soap in it??

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 09:01:55 PM »
added a bit of distilled vinegar to bring ph down to  just 1 25 litre drum of dry washed bio

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 11:14:08 PM »
This TDS meter, new to me , Googleing reveals that it measures dissolved solids in water.  Is it viable for biodiesel?

And how are you measuring the pH of your bio?
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 11:15:38 PM »
a ph meter pen

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 11:17:23 PM »
also a tds metre pen

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 11:48:04 PM »
a ph meter pen

One that is not designed to work with Aqueous solutions?
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 11:53:24 PM »
only started making bio diesel again and wanted to test it . I've already done a water shake test just wondered if there was anything wrong with my bio that's making my van run funny

I was running my van on wvo so that may be a factor.

I'm still getting a bit of soap in water in shake test after dry washing but a lot less than when I tested at first before wash

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2013, 12:39:46 AM »
Hmm, I think the pH meter and TDS meter are probably a waste of time when it comes to bio.

I believe the way to test bio for pH is by titration.  Similarly for soap try a titrated soap test ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Soap_tests  NigelB on here sells the kits.

Have you cut open a filter to see what's blocking it?

Are you leaving the bio to settle for a week or so after manufacture, or just bunging it straight in the car?
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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2013, 07:30:37 AM »
Yes - the above.

What are the results of the 50/50 test? Post up a photo if you can.

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Re: ph of bio diesel 9.8 tds ppm 0
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2013, 12:39:30 PM »
here is  a50/50 test of my latest batch of bio before dry washing quite soapy

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