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FPHE
« on: January 12, 2011, 12:34:25 AM »
Hi folks, got a heat exchanger  [ fphe] from a combi boiler, if anyone wants it let me know, could possibly sort out pics, all I ask is refund postage.
have to say that I think this is the best site I have came across.and thats why I signed up
Cheers folks
Will

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 12:54:55 AM »
Hiya Will, I've been after one to use as a still head heat exchanger - does it have threaded ports?  (I bought one on eBay but alas only one port I could attach plumbing fittings to!)

Glad you like the site, Julian in particular has worked astonishingly hard at it - normally we don't get much feedback so this may well spur us into more action :)

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 01:40:19 AM »
Will, hi and welcome!

Thanks for the kind words, as Tony says, it's most gratifying.

You have the dubious pleasure of being the first member to post who hasn't, as far as we know, originated from the vegetablediesel forum!  How did you find the wiki, we don't yet feature heavily on Google?

If you would like to contribute to the wiki, you'd be most welcome.  There's a page on getting started here http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Creating_pages and a list of "wanted pages" here http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Special:WantedPages  Even proof reading and editing what we've done to date would be a great help ... I for one have abysmal smelling.

I'm all sorted for FPHEs at the moment but thanks for the offer.



Tony, I did this with one unit I had ...




The fittings are 15mm, straight, end feed tap connectors with the nuts sawn off.  The formed flange is just a nice fit to silver solder in place.

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 07:55:57 AM »
Ah, if I tried that I'd just unsolder the whole lot  ;D

Mine has one male threaded port and three male spigots that look like they lock into other fittings in the boiler.

I did manage to aquire a scrapped boiler for dismantling but that had a coil-in-can style style heat exchanger.

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 09:26:49 AM »
Hi Tony, the heat exchanger I have has O ring seals but it could be modified, if its any good to you then E mail
your address to me and I will send it to you. Its in the workshop I,ll dig it out today, cheers Will
to Julian,
Hi Julian, I found the site when I was looking for an alternative method of titration, my ph meter just wont give consistent readings, so searched for titration using turmeric and your site was one that came up. I will try to post some pics of my home built processor if I can transfer them from my phone, my processor is open topped but starting next week my  brother is going to make a cone bottomed 200 litre drum with a clip on lid,

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 10:25:15 AM »
Ah if it's not threaded then probably the same as the one I've got - I'll have to look into modifying mine.  Thanks for the offer though!

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 10:13:34 PM »
Hi folks, the unit I have is the same one as in Julians photo, have to say Julian, nice work, looks good, if anyone wants it then give me a shout, otherwise I might try what Julian done and try some twin tanking on my mates transit.
cheers folks
Will

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 07:26:24 AM »
i got one of those like in the picture!

and one of these too! be ok for rubber pipes http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=21469

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 08:58:15 AM »
Welcome Bio Dervotee,

as you found PH meters don't work with oil, hope you found the turmeric titration page easy to understand? any feedback, suggestions, criticism to help to make it easier for the next person who reads it?

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 10:30:44 AM »
Will ...

You really need a top on that processor as soon as possible!  Can you use the lid from the new one or even a bit of plywood siliconed in place?  Don't forget to put a vent in it, a fitting with a lump of hose running to outside would suffice until your new processor is built.

Tony ...

If you can get the bits to me, I'll happily silver solder it up for you.


Re FPHE ...

From what everyone describes, none are like the one I have. Mine had no spigots or connections, it just had holes.  The tap connectors simply sat over the holes and were silver soldered.  Seems to be OK as I pressure tested it to 50 psi ...




Same idea should work with the spigots everyone is describing.

Also on the subject of FPHEs the couple I had, ex local plumber, were very badly scaled / sludged up.  Drying them out completely allowed the black sludge to harden and fall out in flakes.  But for the limescale I recently found that Sulphuric acid works.  I'd read some where that Sulphuric was not good for descaling but I recently tried a very heavily scaled ballcock in my mild Sulphuric bath and it worked a treat.  So again if anyone wants FPHEs descaled if you can get them to me they can quite happily sit in the acid bath for a week or so.

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2011, 01:28:44 PM »
I'll take you up on that kind offer Julian. :)

I'll take the FPHE to a local plumbing place and see what they've got that would fit.

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2011, 01:33:56 PM »
No problem, brass fittings would be suitable too.  What's the OD and ID of the spigots?

EDIT ... Don't worry about the dimensions, I've just realised I probably got one similar. See below.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 03:51:03 PM by Julian »
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Re: FPHE
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2011, 03:48:08 PM »
In fact if it's from a Vaillant similar to the one Paul posted, don't buy fittings.  I can drill out the spigots to make 15mm sockets which will take the pipe directly ...



Just let me know how long you want the pipes.


Ooooh ... I feel another wiki page coming on for the benefit of the veg community!


« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 03:53:14 PM by Julian »
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Re: FPHE
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 05:26:59 PM »
Ive got two the same as yours Julian,just holes,ive used the industrial glue that Spock recommended to glue in some brass hosetails in one,held pressure ok only trouble is ive got no use for them.
My brother in law/plumber wrapped the last one up and gave it to me on xmas day-tight git!

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Re: FPHE
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 07:16:08 PM »
I'd have been over the moon to get a FPHE in place of some of the rubbish I get given at Christmas.  It's always well intentioned from kind family members, but most of it is totally useless stuff you never use but don't have the heart to throw out "cos so and so gave it to you".

Example .... I've had a beard for over well over 30 years, and have known my sister in law for the last 25.  A few years back she gave me a bottle of pre-electric shave lotion for Christmas!
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