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Vegetable oil motoring => Filter rigs => Topic started by: Rotary-Motion on February 16, 2013, 07:26:01 PM

Title: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 16, 2013, 07:26:01 PM
hi guys

this baby just came up and it was used on a lift in an old bods home, it pumps hydraulic oil, so maybe good for veg oil etc, got a big gauze filter on the end and vales and stuff i think on the top to...

its not mine but been asked to see if anyone is interested here, they want an earner out of it, there maybe a nother not sure yet?

its about 2 foot long, and i think you chuck the lot into tank so was submerged i believe.

looks like it would chew veg up and spit it out no worries...

any use?

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9549/capture1zbx.jpg)

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Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 16, 2013, 07:31:30 PM
Any idea how much dosh RM?
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 16, 2013, 07:32:29 PM
Any idea how much dosh RM?

i'll find out

 ;D

are those electric valve swiches on top? 3x of them...

that gauze filter i would guess is 3 inches wide

the left hand side thing looks like a hand cranking part (looks same on my van tail lift)
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 17, 2013, 07:40:11 PM
Any makers name?, cant find anything on H + C
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nigelb on February 17, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
Any makers name?, cant find anything on H + C
H & C are Hammond and Champness
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 17, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
Cheers Nige, off to Google i go :)
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nigelb on February 17, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
Cheers Nige, off to Google i go :)

I think they are more installation than manufacturing
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 17, 2013, 08:07:01 PM
Cheers Nige, off to Google i go :)

I think they are more installation than manufacturing
So probably not the actual pump make
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 17, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
i dont know any more info, i will have to go visit the pump sometime to check...
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
update that pump has been weighed in now, but here is another with tank

the base in this isnt flat if i remebrr its a V shape to center

tank would make a nice emptying vessel outside the shed to tip oil in, rough filter then pump it into shed.

of a water butt for washing...

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/585/20130223144919.jpg)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8400/20130223144929.jpg)

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8572/20130223144948.jpg)

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Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nigelb on February 24, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
The only downside to that is the pump is 3 phase (415V). If you're geared up for it ...no issues. Nice find though.

Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 08:38:14 AM
The only downside to that is the pump is 3 phase (415V). If you're geared up for it ...no issues. Nice find though.

they dont mind splitting the tank from pump, they get alot of money for pump, mass of copper in it and heavy metal top price.

guess then tank maybe the nice bit for some one, up the side of a shed bio room etc.
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 24, 2013, 11:31:10 AM
I think Knighty or William can use 3 phase?
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nathanrobo on February 24, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
Do you know what frame size the 3ph motor is?  If it's 71 frame for example it could easily be replaced.
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 01:12:34 PM
I think Knighty or William can use 3 phase?

are they users on here?, im not goin g over vod to post...
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 01:13:12 PM
Do you know what frame size the 3ph motor is?  If it's 71 frame for example it could easily be replaced.

no idea of what that is?
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Head Womble on February 24, 2013, 01:21:10 PM
I think Knighty or William can use 3 phase?

are they users on here?, im not goin g over vod to post...

Yes they're on VOD, do you want me to u2u them a link to this thread ?

Or should I just post a link to this thread over there ?
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
I think Knighty or William can use 3 phase?

are they users on here?, im not goin g over vod to post...

Yes they're on VOD, do you want me to u2u them a link to this thread ?

Or should I just post a link to this thread over there ?

yeaah post away
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: K.H on February 24, 2013, 02:19:56 PM
William crosby is a member on here, not sure about Knighty can't check at the mo
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nigelb on February 24, 2013, 04:18:20 PM
Nathan...what's 71 frame?....never heard of that.

I feel some education coming on.

Nige
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
Nathan...what's 71 frame?....never heard of that.

I feel some education coming on.

Nige

 im waiting to know that one, wonder if its fitting bolts or shaft drive?
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nigelb on February 24, 2013, 06:04:05 PM
I've just googled 71 frame. Not really sure if I read it right but it looks as though it relates to the body, flange or both. 3 phase is still 3 phase............unless I've read it and got it wrong.....which can be quite often and regular. ;D

Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 06:18:02 PM
its 415 v so to me at a guess thats 3 phase
Title: 240 volt to 415 volt converter
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
240 volt to 415 volt converter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/240-volt-to-415-volt-converter-/160978204178?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item257b0c7612
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nathanrobo on February 24, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
Do you know what frame size the 3ph motor is?  If it's 71 frame for example it could easily be replaced.

no idea of what that is?

As I understand it, the frame size is the area of the motor's flange, where it bolts to a pump for example.  I guess the best way to measure this is by measuring the centres between the holes on the motor's flange (is this called pcd?). You also need to measure the diameter of the shaft and it helps to know if it there is a keyway on the shaft.

3phases I think are more efficient, so a 3 phase 0.37kw motor could be 63 frame size, whereas the 1ph equivalent would be 71 frame.  I suspect that you could get a 3ph 0.37kw motor in 71 frame though.

Common shaft sizes are 11mm 14mm and 18mm
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nathanrobo on February 24, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
Converting 3ph to single phase will be at the cost of the motor's power.  An electrical engineer will give more precise info, but a 1/2 hp motor at 3ph could be less than 1/3hp converted to 1ph.  Probably not the best way forward.

Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
Converting 3ph to single phase will be at the cost of the motor's power.  An electrical engineer will give more precise info, but a 1/2 hp motor at 3ph could be less than 1/3hp converted to 1ph.  Probably not the best way forward.

heres some more info on that ebay add

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For sale here is a very  little used single phase to three phase converter. It was bough for my previous workshop that had no 3 phase power, to run a 4HP milling machine. The machine only ran once or twice a year, and I moved after 18 months, and now have 3 phase. Perfect for the home model maker, it has several different setting to suit your machine size. I can send this by Fedex Overnight for £10.00. or collect from Littlehampton, West Sussex for free.  Low starting price and no reserve. Good luck
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 06:57:18 PM
wow

8.5 kilowatts = 11.3986878 hp

that off spec plate of that pump
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: nathanrobo on February 24, 2013, 06:59:37 PM
wow

8.5 kilowatts = 11.3986878 hp

that off spec plate of that pump

My wordy... that's a big motor! 
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 24, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
wow

8.5 kilowatts = 11.3986878 hp

that off spec plate of that pump

My wordy... that's a big motor!

you could pressure filter with that baby lol
Title: Re: 240 volt to 415 volt converter
Post by: Ats on February 24, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
240 volt to 415 volt converter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/240-volt-to-415-volt-converter-/160978204178?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item257b0c7612

This is not too far from me!
Title: Re: 240 volt to 415 volt converter
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 25, 2013, 10:15:10 AM
240 volt to 415 volt converter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/240-volt-to-415-volt-converter-/160978204178?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item257b0c7612

This is not too far from me!

good to know if anyone wants a punt on her
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2013, 10:50:02 AM
If you can find a Variable Frequency Drive (with single phase input) cheap enough, then that would also drive a three phase motor - with the advantage of being able to change the speed/soft start/reverse etc.
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2013, 10:52:08 AM
Hang on did you say that was 8.5kW?  I don't think the inverter above is rated that high.  And a VFD of that power would be big $$$.
Title: Re: Serious pump and houseing = offers
Post by: Rotary-Motion on February 25, 2013, 12:02:57 PM
Hang on did you say that was 8.5kW?  I don't think the inverter above is rated that high.  And a VFD of that power would be big $$$.

yes spec on that pump says 8.5 that is a beast of 11HP

above bit of kit stated by the owner can only go to 4HP so not good for this but may come in handy for other uses or members sheds  ;)