Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum
General => Chatter => Topic started by: McDuff on December 15, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
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How many are moving to this site because of the attitude/comments of some members on VOD??
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
i know i get everywhere :-*
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How many are moving to this site because of the attitude/comments of some members on VOD??
i hear ya there dude :-[
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
i know i get everywhere :-*
You know that my comment was not aimed at you.
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
i know i get everywhere :-*
You know that my comment was not aimed at you.
most definately nige no worries at all 8)
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Good grief - it is happening here as well
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Not I. I couldn't give a stuff what anyone says. If I don't like what someone posts, I'll either ignore it, or tell them so.
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Everything is cool over here. I've told the guy who pisses me off about his posts. He still posts but I do my best to deal with it. Normally by logging out.
Nige
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compared with some of the american sites i am on this and VOD are a picture of politeness and good taste. ignoring people who piss you off is the only way. bit like some of the pubs around here. still full of the same people but ignoring each other because of something someone might have said, lost in the mists of time.
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Last few weeks, I've not posted on either much. I'll look in on the VOD but tend to post more on here these days.
Reasons are several ...
I feel there's too much non bio/veg content on the VOD ... here is much more focused.
The VOD seems to attract newcomers who are out just to save money and are not interested in moving the discipline forward by contributing input to the forum ... here is developing to be more open to new ideas.
Despite the long awaited update, the functions of the VOD software are some what lacking and the search facility is absolutely pants ... the software Tony has selected, and continually updates, for biopowered is a vast improvement.
I'm not keen on the lack of transparency with which the VOD is run, especially having asked direct questions and been ignored ... here we try and keep things as transparent as possible. No one person is deemed to "own" either the wiki or forum and on several occasions we've asked how things could be improved and where possible acted upon the suggestions.
I'm not keen on the VOD generating revenue which was not admitted and I think even denied, until just recently. This especially whenever there was a problem kind hearted souls dipped into their pockets to help out ... here, thanks to the good offices of Tony, the hosting is free and I think domain registration is about 3 quid a year (a sum over which the admin fought for the privilege to pay!) I like the ethos that we've set up here in that it's an enthusiasts wiki and forum, non commercial and not for profit.
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
i know i get everywhere :-*
You know that my comment was not aimed at you.
I know who you mean, Nige ... it's that tosser who insists on using commas with no space after them ... it annoys the hell out of me too!
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I visit here more these days than I ever did before. The downside is that some on the VOD who piss me off also post on here...and piss me off. Some folk you can't get away from.
Nige
i know i get everywhere :-*
You know that my comment was not aimed at you.
I know who you mean, Nige ... it's that tosser who insists on using commas with no space after them ... it annoys the hell out of me too!
8)
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Hello,,,,,,,,its the tosser here :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :),,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thought it had been nice and quiet,what were you nicked for this time Julian?,stealing a cement mixer from the Heathrow area?
I post more on here now than the VOD as i prefer the openness to new ideas, although i still go off topic :)
I do think it needs a larger range of smillies though, more to piss Julian off with!
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Well I am pleased others think the same as me - I was beginning to doubt my sanity after this afternoon's session
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Hello,,,,,,,,its the tosser here :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :),,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thought it had been nice and quiet,what were you nicked for this time Julian?,stealing a cement mixer from the Heathrow area?
I post more on here now than the VOD as i prefer the openness to new ideas, although i still go off topic :)
I do think it needs a larger range of smillies though, more to piss Julian off with!
... with which to piss Julian off.
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Seems lyke i dunt need um :)
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No you don't ... it must be your other area of excellence.
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No you don't ... it must be your other area of excellence.
Tis wun more area than you then :) ive done well this week, one comment on another forum and 6 pages of replies, they are now arguing among there selves
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think theres more bitchin here, not good for 2x admins ::)
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But, but ... we're being transparent about it.
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Well I am pleased others think the same as me - I was beginning to doubt my sanity after this afternoon's session
We had "discussions" at the beginning of the wiki with the person your referring to,we voted not to have a third section covering blending and to leave it under the vegetable oil section, im not sure if the member has posted since?
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But, but ... we're being transparent about it.
Well i am but your attitude leaves a lot to be desired!
Its not my fault you own a Discovery!
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Thank you - at last a safe/sane?? house
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we leave our weapons at the door..............
>:(
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But, but ... we're being transparent about it.
Well i am but your attitude leaves a lot to be desired!
Its not my fault you own a Discovery!
This isn't a proper argument ...
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Oh sorry, i thought it was room 12 abuse?
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Oh sorry, i thought it was room 12 abuse?
Good work with the commas.
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Pot and kettle comes to mind ;D
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Oh sorry, i thought it was room 12 abuse?
Good work with the commas.
Christ that's going back a bit? they were shite vans!
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Pot and kettle comes to mind ;D
both i have in my camper ;)
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
What was it and who was he? Seem so long ago now!
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
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Something about moving forums i think?
And we all said we like this one because it sticks to bio/veg related topics, Oooops
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
Yes and its pity he looks like an Ewok!
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
What was it and who was he? Seem so long ago now!
seeing the light and taking that walk on the wild side, time stands still for no man.
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
thats acutually very funny mahaaaaaaaa
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
Yes and its pity he looks like an Ewok!
oh yes i got the big knob, come to daddy baby yeahhhhh
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
thats acutually very funny mahaaaaaaaa
I beg to differ, Julian cant "do" funny!
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back to the op here... and topic folks come on sit down... :)
is what we all posses here is open-mindedness (and bad spelling)
oh yes...
:-*
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Is there an air of too much meth in the room tonight??
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
thats acutually very funny mahaaaaaaaa
I beg to differ, Julian cant "do" funny!
May I refer you to the last PM you sent me referring to your rather tasteless avatar.
P.S. ... Keep up the good work with the punctuation.
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Is there an air of too much meth in the room tonight??
I dare say there is,
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Oh God ... there's another one misusing commas now!
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I did wonder if you would spot that ;D
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My preference is here rather than the VOD,
the constant chatter and going off topic is something the wiki doesn't suffer from.
Completely focused on the job in hand, well it was until tonight it seems.
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The VOD seems to attract newcomers who are out just to save money and are not interested in moving the discipline forward by contributing input to the forum ... here is developing to be more open to new ideas.
Sadly I suspect that'll become more prevalent as fuel prices rise.
A few years ago it was more of a hobby/technical challenge that many of us dabbled in because the appeal was the challenge. Nowadays it's all about the money, which I do appreciate because I've seen the transition between hobby and financial necessity (which does tend to suck the joy out of it).
It's easy to see that anyone jumping on the hard work of others just to save some money without appreciating the effort that has gone on behind it won't be greeted favourably, but in many ways we've got to appreciate that the new crowd really aren't that different, just more desperate due to financial reasons. And that they are considering making their own fuel doesn't really make them that far divorced from the old timers - it's just a state of mind.
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The VOD seems to attract newcomers who are out just to save money and are not interested in moving the discipline forward by contributing input to the forum ... here is developing to be more open to new ideas.
Sadly I suspect that'll become more prevalent as fuel prices rise.
A few years ago it was more of a hobby/technical challenge that many of us dabbled in because the appeal was the challenge. Nowadays it's all about the money, which I do appreciate because I've seen the transition between hobby and financial necessity (which does tend to suck the joy out of it).
It's easy to see that anyone jumping on the hard work of others just to save some money without appreciating the effort that has gone on behind it won't be greeted favourably, but in many ways we've got to appreciate that the new crowd really aren't that different, just more desperate due to financial reasons. And that they are considering making their own fuel doesn't really make them that far divorced from the old timers - it's just a state of mind.
The main difference being the recent steps forward.
I can imagine how Graham Laming felt when he almost revolutionised bio.
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I've seen it with another forum, that was small when i joined up, and then the owner pushed it hard and made it the biggest forum of its kind, and gets big advertising revenue.
It was small and friendly and helpful to start with, then more members came, and the mods were struggling to keep up, then the mods had a massive row and half them quit. I think he must pay professional mods now, because its so well moderated, its become boring, every deviation from the toppic is clamped down on.
It still gets massive views and posts, but it just is not interesting to read any more.
I got into a massive slanging match with another member, while all the mods were asleep, so it was all there for everyone to see for a while. he got banned, and I got a ticking off, so never posted there again. Fond memories, wish I'd saved the posts for posterity.
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I can understand the influx of new members, what bugs me is they dont seem to listen or do any research.
I have given up with the Ali***** guy, im sure its a wind up. its also boring watching the same questions been asked such as the annual winteriser threads althougth the search engine can take the blame for that
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sorry can we keep on topic please the op maybe offended
Pot and kettle comes to mind
both i have in my camper
More Yoda than Volta!
thats acutually very funny mahaaaaaaaa
I beg to differ, Julian cant "do" funny!
May I refer you to the last PM you sent me referring to your rather tasteless avatar.
P.S. ... Keep up the good work with the punctuation.
Ref the PM i said "for you that was a pretty good joke" the key words being "for you"
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That's the last joke I tell you ... come to think of it, it was the first too.
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the pm sucks get a new one :)
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Everything is cool over here. I've told the guy who pisses me off about his posts. He still posts but I do my best to deal with it. Normally by logging out.
Nige
Phew... thought it was me !
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KH - I think your comment about new members is right - it is seen in the VOD post about 2500 limit - they dont know and dont research
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Everything is cool over here. I've told the guy who pisses me off about his posts. He still posts but I do my best to deal with it. Normally by logging out.
Nige
Phew... thought it was me !
Never you Steve. He knows who he is.
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Never you Steve. He knows who he is.
To let you all stop wondering, its me Nigel has an issue with. It seems he has never quite gotten over me querying his markup on the winteron. He had no issue before then, but, hey, dogs and bones 'n all that.
To give you an idea, i get messages in my inbox like this -
The thing is julian...you're 5 posts in and added nothing to the forum....a bit like your posts on the VOD, plenty of content but no real substance. You have not offended me but you really need to add something of value to both forums. Really...you do!
Nige
And, then, when i ignore him -
Did you get my message Julian? Or do I need to send it again.
A bit sad really, but, hey, most of us have better things to do with our time than private messaging people on internet forums to...
Well, im not sure exactly!
Go Nige - Spread the Love! : )
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Never you Steve. He knows who he is.
To let you all stop wondering, its me Nigel has an issue with. It seems he has never quite gotten over me querying his markup on the winteron. He had no issue before then, but, hey, dogs and bones 'n all that.
To give you an idea, i get messages in my inbox like this -
The thing is julian...you're 5 posts in and added nothing to the forum....a bit like your posts on the VOD, plenty of content but no real substance. You have not offended me but you really need to add something of value to both forums. Really...you do!
Nige
And, then, when i ignore him -
Did you get my message Julian? Or do I need to send it again.
A bit sad really, but, hey, most of us have better things to do with our time than private messaging people on internet forums to...
Well, im not sure exactly!
Go Nige - Spread the Love! : )
i dont think this was needed julian whats been said is said and if you need to sppeak to nigel do it off forum and via pm, which i guess is what a mod will say when they see this, else it could blow again and just get messy...
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i dont think this was needed julian whats been said is said and if you need to sppeak to nigel do it off forum and via pm, which i guess is what a mod will say when they see this, else it could blow again and just get messy...
I dont think it was me who bought it up now, was it?
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i dont think this was needed julian whats been said is said and if you need to sppeak to nigel do it off forum and via pm, which i guess is what a mod will say when they see this, else it could blow again and just get messy...
I dont think it was me who bought it up now, was it?
8) yeah whatever dude im not playing 8)
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Inevitably with increasing members there will be conflicts, however I'd like to think that said members could be sensible enough to sort it out amongst themselves as I don't think any of us are too keen on resorting to moderation.