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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #240 on: January 21, 2013, 12:40:55 AM »
Don't give up on it. Some water washing sceptics have now been converted using the titrated wash method. That carries an awful lot of weight in my book.

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I was one of those sceptics, I started my bio life using demeth and settle,
I then started mist washing like Nige, but suffered emulsions (probably due to pore convertions).
Now after a few years of going back to demeth and settle I've again gone to water washing, but this time it's the titrated acid pump wash method.

So as you can see I've tried a few different ways to remove the soaps, and I'm now completely sold on washing.

Mist washed for 5 years - swore by it! Experimented with pump washing... Tank full of blamange. Started to neutralise and tried pump washing again. What a difference! Was getting bored of bio, but it's getting interesting again. Well - u gotta play!

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #241 on: January 22, 2013, 10:36:56 AM »
i buy some drain block from my local store, i checked with the company and its 98% pure acid ( so gotta be careful)

after ive finished the process i let the glyc settle , tap this off, get the processor churning over then add 40ml of acid, then chuck in 15litres of water, never had any problems doing this and the acid stops the bio turning to custard too.. :)
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #242 on: January 26, 2013, 06:36:56 PM »
What temps are people pump washing at.

with the cold ambient temps some people may not be realizing that the wash water can freeze. (can it?)

My first attempt at pump washing (hit and miss without titration) was left overnight to settle and by that time the batch and wash water was at -1 deg C. water and bio would not split. (orange juice)
once heated to 3 deg suddenly everything went back to normal, bio and water split.. continued washing.

Time to bite the bullet, who sells the kit i need to titrate? 

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #243 on: January 26, 2013, 10:09:20 PM »
I start washing as soon as the gly is removed, so the acid wash is done at around 60°C,
this is generally settled overnight, drained in the morning,
then do the second wash, so it's still around 45 to 50°c.

The titration kit you want is sold by nigelb.
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #244 on: April 21, 2013, 01:00:29 AM »
So a few months on what is the considered opinion of this method from those that contributed?

Are you still doing it?

What are your findings?

Have you changed your process at all?
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #245 on: April 21, 2013, 09:45:47 AM »
I've stopped acid washing, I now do a 7% post reaction wash with the gly from the second stage still pressent,
this removes enough soap to not form an emulsion on the first wash.

Yes the acid wash did work and the only drawback (apart from adding another stage) was that titrated soap tests gave false readings until all the acid had been washed out.
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #246 on: April 21, 2013, 01:04:21 PM »
1. Are you still doing it?

2. Have you changed your process at all?

I. Tried it but found it to be an unnecessary additional stage.

2. As the "dead man walking" above, returned to the post reaction 5/7% water wash.


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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #247 on: April 21, 2013, 01:29:42 PM »
1. Are you still doing it?

2. Have you changed your process at all?

I. Tried it but found it to be an unnecessary additional stage.

2. As the "dead man walking" above, returned to the post reaction 5/7% water wash.

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #248 on: April 21, 2013, 04:27:44 PM »

Dead Womble walking, please get it right.

Feel free to use either phrase, the result will be the same.

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #249 on: April 21, 2013, 05:56:24 PM »

Dead Womble walking, please get it right.

Feel free to use either phrase, the result will be the same.

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #250 on: April 21, 2013, 06:51:30 PM »
Sorry to disappoint, but if I loose my setup I'll not be attending the BBB,
how can I turn up with diesel in the tank, that's a hanging offence as it is.
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #251 on: April 21, 2013, 06:54:35 PM »
Sorry to disappoint, but if I loose my setup I'll not be attending the BBB,
how can I turn up with diesel in the tank, that's a hanging offence as it is.

Just turning up is a hanging offence in your case and I know where you live, there's no escape.

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #252 on: April 21, 2013, 06:58:36 PM »
Sorry to disappoint, but if I loose my setup I'll not be attending the BBB,
how can I turn up with diesel in the tank, that's a hanging offence as it is.

Just turning up is a hanging offence in your case and I know where you live, there's no escape.

I sounds like I'll have to attend the public hanging then.
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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #253 on: April 21, 2013, 07:26:30 PM »
I think that Brett Gilbert showed last year and had never made a single litre of bio fuel.....no excuse there I'm afraid Mark.

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Re: In processor titrated water wash method
« Reply #254 on: April 21, 2013, 10:25:01 PM »
So does that mean after 17 pages singing it's praises no-one now does it and it's not worth doing?
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