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Handling 2-EHN
« on: December 16, 2014, 02:13:38 PM »
I read the MSDS here https://www.lubrizol.com/FuelAdditives/Products/PureCetaneImprover.pdf and now I'm filled with trepidation.  Sounds volatile/explosive in the right conditions.

Does everyone else guard against static discharge/excess temperature when dosing?

How is everyone else doing it?

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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 05:01:39 PM »
My 2-EHN is stored primarily in the 5lt HDPE container it came in. Some is decanted into a 500ml HDPE container and from this it is dosed into the 25lt storage drums @ 3ml per litre when refueling the car. All of this is done at ambient temperature.

I've always thought this was safe enough.

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 05:35:33 PM »
pour into plastic cup, suck up in syringe, pour excess back into tub. wash rest of excess off hands/car/path/dog.
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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 05:40:55 PM »
I don't know what to say..... but it strips paint off plastic bumpers, it smells strange, the smell does not go off your skin very easily, and its hard to pour it out of the 5 litre cubie intoo 2 litre water bottles.....

Having said all that my third niple is still intact and my penal wart is if anything even bigger! hahaha
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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 05:45:58 PM »
I had a quick flick through the MSDS and to me it doesn't sound that bad considering we play with methanol day in and day out.  This sounds certainly seems far safer from a toxicity point of view in that the effects are both short term and reversible.

I'm wondering if it's really worth bothering with.  I'm quite happy to suffer a slight loss in performance (not that it's very noticeable in a Disco) given the economics of making and running bio.

Despite running like a snail on Valium most of the time, the Disco is definitely sluggish wen cold and considerably so in cold weather.  Once up to running temperature, which can take some time, it seems to run OK in even in a very cold ambient.  If you are only doing short journeys, could you be seeing the same issue?

What would concern me is running it in the Golf, given the temperatures at which the fuel system appears to run.  Presumably mixing it with bio will reduce it's auto-ignition temperature but as parts of the fuel system run at nearly 70°C at tick over, under a heavy load for prolonged periods the quoted auto-ignition temperature could be approached.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 05:59:54 PM »
my wvo runs at 72 degc.

or 80 in summer....



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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 06:08:14 PM »
oh forgot to mention storage requirements.....

It was in the boot for more than 2 weeks covering some 2600 miles...
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 06:46:01 PM »
I wish I could say that the addition at 3ml per litre of 2-EHN is actually making a difference to MPG....but I cant!!

It still goes in...but only because I have it here.

When it's gone......

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 06:54:50 PM »
I don't know how much it helps.  I use 2ml/l ish. When I've dried 180l down to ambient I pour 300 ml Into a beaker then dump that into the drying tank whilst the air pump is still going and, at this time of year, a gallon of petrol. Leave that 10 mins then transfer to storage.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 06:56:07 PM »
And yes, my garage decking stinks whilst this process takes place :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 07:09:58 PM »
works fine for me and does give a power boost.

along with the reworked pump, alda, egr and optimized injectors.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 08:43:09 PM »
I've just been given a small bottle with about half an inch in the bottom. I'll run for a while without it to get a bit of a base line, and chuck some in and see what happens.
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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 08:56:49 PM »
I think there are more positive comments and responses across both channels for those using this with WVO and SVO than bio


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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 09:19:04 PM »
There's a considerable difference between using and not using 2-ehn in the trusty old Picasso paticularly in winter, not quite as noticeable in summer though.

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Re: Handling 2-EHN
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 09:26:55 PM »
I've read your comments before Pops...it could well be vehicle specific.