Newspaper clears bio ... not sure I believe this myself!

[Julian]

I'd love to help with this experimentation...but I don't know how to make cloudy bio.

I know what you mean Nige, what is this cloudy stuff they speak off.

One day we may have the pleasure of welcoming you both to the wonderful and fascinating world of fallible mortals.

[Julian]

if the bio is clear fresh (hot) out of the reactor

and then it clouds up

whatever fats the cloudyness is made from must be floating around in the bio, and then group up and join together to form tiny fat lumps which we see at cloudyness

maybe it's easier (less energy) to form fats on the surface of the newspaper than it is for then to stick to each other ?

and/or it's easier to bump into and stick to the massive surface area of the newspaper than another tiny fat molecule ?


you could test a thin slither of newspaper and see what happens, does it totally clear the bio, and is there a residue left on it ?

could also try cardboard, a plastic bag, a bit of wood, broken glass, some kind of cloth/wool/denim etc... if you've got a dog, comb it then stick some of it's hair in there ?

(just trying to cover all biases with materials/surfaces)

if you can narrow down exactly what's going on, it would be much easier to adapt it into your process / make it more efficient


if it is the rough surface helping the fats form like I'm guessing, then newspaper probably will be one of the best things for it because it has a rough surface...

if that's right, then it would be pretty easy to roll up some newspapers into some drain pipe and pump the (cold) bio through... not sure how fast you could pump it... I can't decide if using lots of newspaper tightly packed in will mean you can pump it through pretty fast or not... still thinking on that one   

 Interesting theorys.  Bio was cloudy when hot and stayed that way during cooling and remains the same at ambient.   As with my answer to Jim, if simply dangling some newspaper in the settling drum works, why do anything more hitec than that.

[knighty]

I think if you just hang it in the tank it'll fall apart once it gets soggy

[Julian]

It doesn't go soggy in bio like it does in water, it retains it's strength.

[knighty]

It doesn't go soggy in bio like it does in water, it retains it's strength.

freaky! I didn't expect that, I thought the weight of the oil would pull it apart!


I wonder if it's a bit like wet cloths being stronger than dry ones?

[Jamesrl]

I'd love to help with this experimentation...but I don't know how to make cloudy bio.

I know what you mean Nige, what is this cloudy stuff they speak off.

One day we may have the pleasure of welcoming you both to the wonderful and fascinating world of fallible mortals.

No thanks, I think we'll just sit atop Olympus watching you mere mortals.

[Tony]

I'd love to help with this experimentation...but I don't know how to make cloudy bio.

I know what you mean Nige, what is this cloudy stuff they speak off.

One day we may have the pleasure of welcoming you both to the wonderful and fascinating world of fallible mortals.

No thanks, I think we'll just sit atop Olympus watching you mere mortals.

The thirteenth God - Coppabasha, God of Self Abu...err Worship?

[Jamesrl]

I'd love to help with this experimentation...but I don't know how to make cloudy bio.

I know what you mean Nige, what is this cloudy stuff they speak off.

One day we may have the pleasure of welcoming you both to the wonderful and fascinating world of fallible mortals.

No thanks, I think we'll just sit atop Olympus watching you mere mortals.

The thirteenth God - Coppabasha, God of Self Abu...err Worship?

That's heresy, beware the inquisition AND a bolt of lightening, you non believer.

[Julian]

I the real world of Gods I was thinking more along the lines of  Hephaestus

Here's and avatar for you, Jim.



http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/Bio/avatar_hephaestus.jpg

[Jamesrl]

I the real world of Gods I was thinking more along the lines of  Hephaestus

Here's and avatar for you, Jim.



http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/Bio/avatar_hephaestus.jpg

That's better, I bit of respeck at last.

[Tony]

I the real world of Gods I was thinking more along the lines of  Hephaestus

Well that's the kind of thing you catch if you hang out with ladies of ill repute!

[Julian]

I the real world of Gods I was thinking more along the lines of  Hephaestus

Here's and avatar for you, Jim.



http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/Bio/avatar_hephaestus.jpg

That's better, I bit of respeck at last.

Enjoy ... it won't last.

[Jamesrl]

I the real world of Gods I was thinking more along the lines of  Hephaestus

Well that's the kind of thing you catch if you hang out with ladies of ill repute!

They've got pills for it now, I'm just getting over a nasty bout of it.

[nigelb]

I'd love to help with this experimentation...but I don't know how to make cloudy bio.

I know what you mean Nige, what is this cloudy stuff they speak off.

One day we may have the pleasure of welcoming you both to the wonderful and fascinating world of fallible mortals.

.....not while I'm water washing you wont.

[Julian]

Proverbs, Chapter 16, Verse 18 ...  Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

As with Pete's Jee, Je, Jeeee (American car) ... I'll remind you you said that one day.