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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2013, 04:18:53 PM »
A gly trap then, I've spoken to Tony about this in the past (his idea not mine).
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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2013, 04:22:04 PM »
Oh, that old chestnut.  We were all expecting something novel and exciting based on deep fundamental physics, and we get a bucket with a lid and a pipe ... really!

The idea's been muted many times before, but not for static collection of glycerine that I can remember.  Have you tried using it for collecting glycerine as the reaction progresses?  A bit like real time two stage reaction.
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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2013, 05:12:58 PM »
I was going to say keep up Jim but you posted in this thread already

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,933.msg9245.html

The stainless tank has built in coils which could be used to warm what drops out back to liquid for removal.

Thinking about it I bet the gear pump would do a good job of moving the glyc from the sedimenter to containers for disposal.
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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »
A sealed container connected to the bottom drain of the reactor larger than the volume of the glycerol with
a tap above the glycerol level to drain the bio       

Give him the money Mable.

You don't need a valve to return the bio, as the heavier glyc drops in the bio returns back up the same pipe.

To make things easier use 22mm pipe and valve.

I don't get it, how does that get the solid glyc out of my processor?
I got the bio out easily enough, I just opened the valve I put in a couple of inches above the cone and drained it in to some cans.

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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2013, 12:59:07 AM »

I don't get it, how does that get the solid glyc out of my processor?
I got the bio out easily enough, I just opened the valve I put in a couple of inches above the cone and drained it in to some cans.

It doesn't BUT it will help you and others should the need to rapidly depart the scene occur again.

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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2013, 07:12:15 AM »
BTW I've recently fitted a special glyc entry point, makes life a piece of pi$$. I can put 20ltr of glyc in as fast or faster than the methoxide.

You've not enlightened us thickos on your lid free glyc injection system yet.

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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2013, 08:11:35 AM »

I don't get it, how does that get the solid glyc out of my processor?
I got the bio out easily enough, I just opened the valve I put in a couple of inches above the cone and drained it in to some cans.

It doesn't BUT it will help you and others should the need to rapidly depart the scene occur again.

Ah ok, I have got the pleasure of sorting this out this afternoon, nearly out of fuel and could have done with some in the settling drum by now.
Who would be a bio brewer.......

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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2013, 07:11:12 PM »

Hmm... that's why I went back over to KOH

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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2013, 07:34:51 PM »

I don't get it, how does that get the solid glyc out of my processor?
I got the bio out easily enough, I just opened the valve I put in a couple of inches above the cone and drained it in to some cans.

It doesn't BUT it will help you and others should the need to rapidly depart the scene occur again.

Ah ok, I have got the pleasure of sorting this out this afternoon, nearly out of fuel and could have done with some in the settling drum by now.
Who would be a bio brewer.......

How did you get on ?
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Re: Glycerol from ASM reactions
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2013, 08:06:55 PM »

I don't get it, how does that get the solid glyc out of my processor?
I got the bio out easily enough, I just opened the valve I put in a couple of inches above the cone and drained it in to some cans.

It doesn't BUT it will help you and others should the need to rapidly depart the scene occur again.

Ah ok, I have got the pleasure of sorting this out this afternoon, nearly out of fuel and could have done with some in the settling drum by now.
Who would be a bio brewer.......

How did you get on ?

Well after a couple of hours getting covered in glyc it is all sorted and reloaded ready to make a batch this week. Once the oil was out it was apparent that the glyc was not totally solid just very thick and a good rodding sorted it out. I had to take the pumps appart and clean them out but could have been worse!