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Offline Jamesrl

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A question for water washers.
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:34:27 PM »
Would I be right in assuming all you water washers have a Bio/Water separators.

In it amazing how much bio sneaks out with the water.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 02:18:48 PM »
out of a standard 100 ltr batch i always end up with about 95 ltrs, if im in a rush maybe a little less than that so ive always known ive lost a few litres of bio when im water /pump washing.


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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM »
Yep u do loose a bit, but the fewer washes and the longer the settling time (hot) the better the separation.  The last batch, I pumped washed with 3 buckets of water, didn't have a great loss at all. 

Before neutralisation, mist washing 5 - 7 times used to cost at least 5 litres of bio.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 05:18:22 PM »
As a water wash virgin I'm having a bit of a problem telling the water from the bio phase and have notice a reasonable amount floating to the top over night.

I'm gonna make meself a separator.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 05:38:00 PM »
As a water wash virgin I'm having a bit of a problem telling the water from the bio phase and have notice a reasonable amount floating to the top over night.

I'm gonna make meself a separator.

I'm not sold on washing, but look forward to seeing this separator.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2013, 05:41:56 PM »
I'm not sold on washing, but look forward to seeing this separator.

To be honest with you neither am I, got a feeling it won't be happening again after this batch.

The oil separator is the simplest idea you could ever come across based totally on Sg.

I'v made a couple of industrial ones in me time.
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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2013, 07:05:58 PM »
If you cant tell the difference between water and biodiesel then you've got a bit of a problem. Try draining the water slowly...the difference is easily spotted.

It seems as some folk like to make a simple process as difficult as possible.


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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2013, 07:08:48 PM »
Jim
I need to make a heated water separator/ trap to go in the fuel line on the lister. How about a clue on how the commercial ones work, or better still a sketch?
Dick
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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2013, 07:21:21 PM »
If you cant tell the difference between water and biodiesel then you've got a bit of a problem. Try draining the water slowly...the difference is easily spotted.

It seems as some folk like to make a simple process as difficult as possible.


And it seem's some are just toooo perfect. lol

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2013, 07:27:57 PM »
If you cant tell the difference between water and biodiesel then you've got a bit of a problem. Try draining the water slowly...the difference is easily spotted.

It seems as some folk like to make a simple process as difficult as possible.

I ALWAYS drain my reactor very slowly be it glyc or water.

How am I making it difficult?

I add water with acid, pump mix, settle overnight and drain off, as yet I've not seen a clear difference between soapy glyc loaden water and wet Bio but I am a newbie to your world.   

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2013, 07:32:56 PM »
Jim
I need to make a heated water separator/ trap to go in the fuel line on the lister. How about a clue on how the commercial ones work, or better still a sketch?
Dick

Surely a standard agglomerator would solve your problem. 

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2013, 07:35:57 PM »
If its drained into carbouys any bio will soon separate and can be sucked back in.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2013, 07:39:21 PM »
If its drained into carbouys any bio will soon separate and can be sucked back in.

I did that but would like to reclaim as close to 100% as possible. squeak, squeak.

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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2013, 07:49:39 PM »
Jim
I need to make a heated water separator/ trap to go in the fuel line on the lister. How about a clue on how the commercial ones work, or better still a sketch?
Dick

Surely a standard agglomerator would solve your problem.

Looking for something with no moving parts and I thought agglomerators were more for solids in liquids?
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Re: A question for water washers.
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2013, 07:52:41 PM »
If its drained into carbouys any bio will soon separate and can be sucked back in.

I did that but would like to reclaim as close to 100% as possible. squeak, squeak.
You shouldnt lose much that way, how much went missing?