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12 volt to 240v invertor
« on: November 19, 2012, 09:38:41 PM »
any body selling one of these, i want one...

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 09:54:35 PM »
I bought a 1000W inverter from the bay a few years back. Well useful it is. There are limitations with them as most use a modified sine wave system to invert the current. If you can...try and find an ambulance being broken for spares. The inverters they have provide a true 240V as they power medical equipment. Modified sine waves are not approved for such things.

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 10:18:13 PM »
ambulance one i found was 110volts

if it says pure sine wave is this good?

also this one doesnt say pure sine wave but has 2 sockets? anyone know what the writting is?


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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 10:18:48 PM »
I bought a 1000W inverter from the bay a few years back. Well useful it is. There are limitations with them as most use a modified sine wave system to invert the current. If you can...try and find an ambulance being broken for spares. The inverters they have provide a true 240V as they power medical equipment. Modified sine waves are not approved for such things.

Nige

Yes check out that what you want to run from it will run from Modified sine wave if you decide to buy the cheaper option of the 2, true sine wave are many times more expensive.

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2012, 10:22:52 PM »
ok im lost?

modified wave

pure sine wave

and

true sine wave

which out the 3 runs most things?

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 09:23:29 AM »
i got that one above, tough unit, only used it for baby milk bottle warmer on a trip to malaga and back in the truck...

no problems with it,
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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2012, 09:59:05 AM »
as above, if you dont need the pure sine wave, then, unless it does not cost any more, you could probably do without it.

Laptops etc all have their own switch mode supplies, which can probably handle most stuff.  Heaters wont care at all.  Pumps, if the way PWM controllers are anything to go by, wont care.

...indeed, im not actually sure what you could use with a car that does need a clean wave form?
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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2012, 10:39:09 AM »
Fatboy has got a 350 one he would flog

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 01:52:54 PM »
modified sine wave or MSW for short are fine for most things except motors . they wont work with things like fridge compressors. i had a 1000 watt one for years till i plugged in a shorted soldering iron and killed it. i now have a 300 watt one which works fine. takes a few flickers of the lights  when i plug the laptop and satellite  in but otherwise it is fine. you can find the 1000 watt ones on ebay for about £85 to £130.

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 07:25:49 PM »
it will maybe be running an LED LCD HDTV, they dont like spiking.... aswell as laptop maybe.

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Do I need Modified Sine Wave, or Pure Sine Wave?

Advantages of Pure Sine Wave inverters over modified sine wave inverters:

a) Output voltage wave form is pure sine wave with very low harmonic distortion and clean power like utility-supplied electricity.

b) Inductive loads like microwave ovens and motors run faster, quieter and cooler.

c) Reduces audible and electrical noise in fans, fluorescent lights, audio amplifiers, TV, Game consoles, Fax, and answering machines.

d) Prevents crashes in computers, weird print out, and glitches and noise in monitors.

e) Reliably powers the following devices that will normally not work with modified sine wave inverters:

Laser printers, photocopiers, magneto-optical hard drives
Certain laptop computers (you should check with your manufacturer)
Some fluorescent lights with electronic ballasts
Power tools employing "solid state" power or variable speed control
Some battery chargers for cordless tools
Some new furnaces and pellet stoves with microprocessor control
Digital clocks with radios
Sewing machines with speed/microprocessor control
X-10 home automation system
Medical equipment such as oxygen concentrators
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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 07:39:03 PM »
Fatboy has got a 350 one he would flog

is it pure sine wave kieth?

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 08:29:55 PM »
TBH i havent a clue,its in his car anyway i think,so have a look when your in,or bring something you want to use on it and test it?
I dont even know what the 1000w one i got is wave wise

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Re: 12 volt to 240v invertor
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2012, 08:33:27 PM »
TBH i havent a clue,its in his car anyway i think,so have a look when your in,or bring something you want to use on it and test it?
I dont even know what the 1000w one i got is wave wise

good ol amazon has a 1000w pure sine wave for £157 which is good and i may go for...