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Wiki page for glycerol logs
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:20:21 PM »
Hi all,
There seems to be an increase in discussion on glycerol logs recently on VOD, Maybe that is due to the onset of winter.
Anyway, I was thinking of writing a Wiki page on them with a few photos.

Do people think this is a good plan and which category should I list it under?
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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 09:39:31 PM »
Good idea,i would say list it under "finishing" as bar soap is in there already,i might have some pics of a log maker i made if they are of any use?

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 09:51:58 PM »
Glog page is a great idea, Jules.

We have a Glycerol page in the chemicals section which mentions disposal and we also have soap making in the finishing section.  I think the Glycerol page could do with amending to mention soap making and Glycerol logs with appropriate links.

Personally I don't think we want too many sections, but what are peoples views on having a Miscellaneous section as a sort of catchall for this and other pages that are difficult to home.

I can do you some pics of logs in carpet tubes, and one of my recently and beautifully installed log burner in full flame!


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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 09:58:12 PM »
Miscellaneous sounds like a good idea,i intend doing a page on that melting stick,so that would be a good place to put it.
That log burner,has it got a building around it? or is it just sat out in the open?

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 10:22:58 PM »
With remarks like that I'm tempted to suggest where you can put your melting stick, however as it's a piece of equipment I think the "Processors and equipment" section would be considerably less painful.

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2012, 10:42:48 PM »
God, I amaze myself some times ... there we go, a new category, "Miscellaneous," created and soap making move into it.
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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2012, 10:51:10 PM »
Careful you don't dislocate something patting yourself on the back

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2012, 09:00:48 AM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.  max.print was over yesterday explaining about how to get them to burn properly and an interesting technique for mixing sawdust and glyc in bulk :)

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.  max.print was over yesterday explaining about how to get them to burn properly and an interesting technique for mixing sawdust and glyc in bulk :)

Either ...
And I'm not going to share it with anyone.

Or ...
And this is the method he described ...

Some of us are Glog novices and need all the info we can get!
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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2012, 02:35:13 PM »
Well, I wouldn't want to steal his thunder so I'll leave it for him to divulge the details *nudge nudge eh max.print*? :)

"Glog" I like that!

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 10:17:45 PM »
It's not my idea and I'm sure you must have seen it on the VOD Julian ..... Mix it in a cement mixer then store the fairly dry mix in an old dustbin and make up the glogs (I like that too) as you need them.

The trick for getting it to burn cleanly seems to be getting your fire good and hot before you shove on the first glog.
 
We're going to experiment this year with just putting the mix into bags (is that a glag?)

Oh, nearly forgot  ;D

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 11:03:09 AM »
Oh, a little disappointed! I was expecting some new revelation in making Glogs.  I used to have a cement mixer ... didn't I Mark? ... so I could use that to mix.

I've got a cunning plan for making logs, the machine for which I've yet to construct.  If it works, I'll share the idea.
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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 10:22:08 PM »
Got some photos for you, Jules.  This is fairly heavily soaked, course hardwood shavings in a length of carpet core.

This is at about 10 mins ...



and the same log at about 30 mins ...



I had to take the photos with the door open because The flash reflected on the glass window.  You can see how just the gasses from the the log are burning.  With the door closed the gas spreads the width of the burner and combusts in the secondary air.

It makes one hell of a difference using Glycerol that has no 7% water wash it it!

« Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 09:29:23 AM by Julian »
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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 08:59:05 AM »
When I've tried burning glyc + sawdust I've always had it leak out of the bottom of whatever it's burning in.  This looks pretty clean.  I'm beginning to think I mixed my glyc logs up too rich.

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Re: Wiki page for glycerol logs
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 09:11:29 AM »
That can also be caused by poor mixing especially if you're using solid glyc. If you don't mix it really well you can end up with pockets of pure glyc (which can be as big as a cricket ball) which melt out when on the fire. Ideally, getting your glyc liquid before you satrt is the way to go.