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Bio proof seal
« on: July 18, 2012, 11:00:50 PM »
Julian very kindly gave me some foamed orange gasket material to try as a gasket on one of my 500l steel drums - was originally going to flip both (one is already to make the processor) but it might be nice on the 500l settle drum if I could have a large bottom access port for clearing glyc.  If this material is up to it...

I've cut a strip and it's sitting in 100C bio + trace methanol as we speak - so going to find out if it can take the heat or not!

Anyway, cheers Julian, will see how it goes!

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 11:23:46 PM »
It'll probably go quite soft.

I think the 'plastic' point of PVC is around 180°C, so it may hold up as a compressed gasket.

I believe I'm right in saying that PVC sweats bio, but again, it may be ok as a compressed gasket.

The results will be interesting.
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 09:55:26 AM »
It has shrunk slightly and hardened a little.  It's still flexible and doesn't show any signs of becoming brittle.  I'll carry on subjecting it to the abuse expected of a settling drum gasket and take some photos.

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 01:15:02 PM »
Sounds good but don't publicise it virtues too much ... I can't get any more!
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 04:35:17 PM »
Do you remember what kind of material it is?

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 08:30:15 PM »
Yes.
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 08:56:18 PM »
It has shrunk slightly and hardened a little.  It's still flexible and doesn't show any signs of becoming brittle.  I'll carry on subjecting it to the abuse expected of a settling drum gasket and take some photos.
Hmmm,thought you were having a cold shower for a minute there

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 09:26:05 PM »
It has shrunk slightly and hardened a little.  It's still flexible and doesn't show any signs of becoming brittle.  I'll carry on subjecting it to the abuse expected of a settling drum gasket and take some photos.
Hmmm,thought you were having a cold shower for a minute there

What happens in your shower ... isn't "shrinking slightly and hardening a little" something of a paradox?
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 10:31:03 PM »
Not if its ingrowing!

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
Not if its ingrowing!

That's a picture that'll need careful eradication from the mind of anyone wishing to retrain their sanity!
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 11:35:36 PM »
Yes.

There's a tiny clue in the second post!

But to elaborate ... it's foamed, plasticised PVC, probably made by calendering rather than extrusion.
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2012, 12:44:00 AM »
Can't beat a bit of PVC if the results are anything to go by!

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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2012, 11:25:15 AM »
I'm guessing this is the same stuff?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-White-Plastic-PVC-Foamed-Sheets-195mmx1220mmx6mm-NOT-Perspex-or-Acrylic-/230695668374

The sample strip I cut has had a couple of treatments of hot Meth laden bio and is still holding out though it has shrunk a bit.  This probably isn't an issue as a seal as it'll be compressed in use anyway.  So it's looking useful as a decent filler gasket material.
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2012, 05:38:54 PM »
I'm guessing this is the same stuff?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-White-Plastic-PVC-Foamed-Sheets-195mmx1220mmx6mm-NOT-Perspex-or-Acrylic-/230695668374

The sample strip I cut has had a couple of treatments of hot Meth laden bio and is still holding out though it has shrunk a bit.  This probably isn't an issue as a seal as it'll be compressed in use anyway.  So it's looking useful as a decent filler gasket material.

No, that's rigid (very common in the sinage industry) the stuff you have is plasticised i.e. flexible ... and a much cooler colour!
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Re: Bio proof seal
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 12:17:08 PM »
Well many batches later it has hardened and shrunk a bit but will make a good bio seal, so it's going on my settle tank at the bottom to keep the bio in!