Trailer ID/Chassis plate, help needed

[K.H]

After hours on google i have given up trying to find out if an unbraked single axle trailer needs a plate or not, so i decided sod it, for what it costs i might as well buy a blank anyway, one of these



What i need is help filling in the 3 weights, as i understand it the max axle weight for un braked is 750kg and being only one axle the Gross vehicle weight (GVW) would also be 750kg?
Is that correct? and WtF is U/W and what figure would it be?

The trailer is old and homemade, but well built and in good nick,with a quality hitch, i have permanently fix my log splitter to it, as its a homemade one i will leave the rest blank

[greasemonkey]

Unit weight, or Unladen weight, I would imagine, although I thought that was mostly ULW.
They have a tendency to change the terms they use.

GVW less UW = your maximum payload. (I don't think they use that term anymore.)

As far as I know, the only weight you legally need is the MAM,( Maximum Allowable Mass) or in your case with that plate, the GVW.

[K.H]

As far as I know, the only weight you legally need is the MAM,( Maximum Allowable Mass) or in your case with that plate, the GVW.

So being a single axle thats 750kg, job done?

[greasemonkey]

As far as I know, the only weight you legally need is the MAM,( Maximum Allowable Mass) or in your case with that plate, the GVW.

So being a single axle thats 750kg, job done?

Aye, or more that fact that 750KG is the MAM of an unbraked trailer, not so much the single axle.

[K.H]

As far as I know, the only weight you legally need is the MAM,( Maximum Allowable Mass) or in your case with that plate, the GVW.

So being a single axle thats 750kg, job done?

Aye, or more that fact that 750KG is the MAM of an unbraked trailer, not so much the single axle.

Nice one Mr Monkey sir, missed your spuds this xmas 

[greasemonkey]

I haven't given anyone any spuds this year. Must try to get around a bit more.

[knighty]

if it's old and home made it doesn't need a data plate on it ?

vosa take the tyre load ratings as the max weight

but even if you're tyres are rated at 1 ton each... so gives you a 2 ton max, you're still ok as long as you stay under your 750kg limit

(unbraked you'll have a 750kg limit anyway iirc?)


there was a lot of talk about this stuff on the transit forum a while back, and a lot of miss information, but a few people emailed back and forth with VOSA and that's what was pointed out in the end

[greasemonkey]

I wonder about that, too.
If it's an unbraked axle, it's MAM is 750KG, whichever way you look at it, so why does it need the plate?
Putting the plate on is just stating the obvious.
But, VOSA don't work on logic or reason...........

[Tony]

Is there a legal requirement for this plate on unbraked trailers under 750kg? Mine doesn't have one (or indeed forward facing white reflectors which I plan to add)

[Head Womble]

There is a good reason for the plate, how do you know how much weight you can put in it if you don't know the tare weight (unladen weight).
This will not be lost on VOSA.

[knighty]

according to vosa, trailers made before (insert whatever date it was here) don't need a data plate on them


so if you do get pulled, "I only put lightweight household rubbish for the tip on it officer" (or whatever) is the correct response :-)

could always add "I don't know how heavy it is, but I can pick it up, so I'm way way under 750kg" if you feel like it

[Tony]

Should be fine officer?

[greasemonkey]

Ha ha, funny you should put a picture of scaffold up.

A Dude I worked for used to load his 2wd Ranger pickup up with scaffold until the front wheels left the ground, then throw a few bits off to drive it to site on a regular basis, always got away with it.

The plod pulled him over one day with two bags of cement in the back, and put him over the weighbridge.
The 25kg, written on the bags, and the weight plate on the truck meant nothing to them.

Having said that, they could have just been shooting him a warning.

[Head Womble]

Nice bit of loading there Tony.

You're not going to start the roof work in this weather are you ?

[Tony]

I'm focussing on the important bits first Mark - outbuilding roof! (one has a really steep pitch and is missing a lot of ridge tiles)