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Cavitation mixing
« on: October 13, 2016, 12:19:47 PM »
Found this whilst searching different types of mixing ... http://hydrodynamics.com/cavitation-technology/




Seems quite a simple design.  Centrifugal force creates a vacuum in the holes and the bubble at the bottom collapses creating cavitation.  It wouldn't be too difficult to modify a centrifugal pump to do the same thing.   Difficult bit would be balancing the impeller.
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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2016, 02:41:55 PM »
Looks good to me. I always maintained that setting my eductor (or altering the liquid height) so it was very slightly too high increased the agitation so a stream of bubbles would shoot down to the cone every few seconds.
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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2016, 03:10:59 PM »
Don't know that's quite the same thing.  Sounds like you eductor is entraining air rather than creating cavitation.

Takes quite a lot of power to get liquids to cavitate ... I first saw the results when I started in the marine industry.  It was on the bronze propeller of a large tanker.  The edges of the blades were quite badly eroded, just like they had rusted away.

it happens when a tiny void in a liquid is put under extreme stress so that it collapses and implodes.  The result is thought to be a minuscule jet of liquid that can erode metal or in this case mix liquids together.  Good wiki page here ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation

I had a brief discussion about mixing with a mate (yes, I have a couple) who's big on chemistry.  He recons violent mixing will only speed up the process, not make it any more thorough.  So a slow, low shear paddle in the tank will do equally as well, it'll just take longer.

On that note part of the discussion was that really aggressive mixing may encourage the glycerin to break into smaller and smaller parts which will take longer to drop out.  This could possibly explain why some people get brown deposits dropping out of bio for some time after completion.
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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 07:56:36 PM »
I've seen that rotor system used to generate hot water, they said it was based on a water hammer, if you know what one is.

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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 08:05:59 PM »
They mention a heating effect on their website,

Not sure that water hammer in a domestic situation is sufficiently powerful to create cavitation ... I thought it was just a slug of water bouncing back and forth in a pipe when a tap's closed quickly.
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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 08:13:27 PM »
you could modify an old electric motor armature  to make something like that. as regards the heating effect,there are loads of simular things on youtube  proporting  to be free energy devices. they all fail to mention the motor to drive the things though.

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Re: Cavitation mixing
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 11:26:54 PM »
you could modify an old electric motor armature  to make something like that. as regards the heating effect,there are loads of simular things on youtube  proporting  to be free energy devices. they all fail to mention the motor to drive the things though.

The free energy comes from the calculations of heat out to energy in but inventor can't get anyone in the scientific world to confirm the results.

The rule being you can't get out more than you put in.