fiat 2500td

[atimmyl]

does anyone know if my fiat motorhome 2500td 1998 will run on bio

[Julian]

Hi, welcome to the wiki and forum.

I'm not an engine expert but most diesels of that age should run fine on bio.

From a little googling, this page ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Ducato  seem to indicate it's got an Iveco engine, indirect injection if it's early 1998 and direct if it's late.

I'm sure an engine guru will be along soon to dispense wise words.

[atimmyl]

thanks i shall look forward to the gurus comments julian

[greasemonkey]

Not a guru by any means, but at that age, I'd be surprised if it won't run on bio.
Also, at that age, you are liable to get a few problems with the bio shifting muck out the tank, pipes disintegrating, and the fuel filter housing having a fetch.
All might sound a bit terrifying, but don't worry about it, it's all pretty simple.
I would be worth investigating if it will run on WVO. It will need to be a indirect injection, unless it's a DI which is similar to the Transit, which is fine on WVO.

[atimmyl]

thanks as you can probably tell im new to this lark ....... in fact im so new ive never made bio before ..... i have this week bought a reactor, oil, methanol, poh, and such and am planing to take the plunge for the first time sometime soon using the 80/20 method , so any advice would be very welcome

[Julian]

There's years of accumulated wisdom on the wiki.  If you can't find any info you want there, people will be more than pleased to help out on the forum.

You did read the wiki before buying a processor, didn't you?  What process did you buy?

[atimmyl]

have bought a green genie processor with a built in wet and dry wash just got to change the filters and its good to go .... do you know this processor....?

[oakwoodtv]

The green genie processor has been disgust on hear from time to time.

[Tony]

I don't know much about the Green Genie.  Is it a plastic vessel with heating?  In the biodiesel community such equipment is frowned upon because of the fire risk it represents.  Metal processing vessels aren't risk free but the dangers are dramatically reduced.  First and foremost, have you checked your household insurance covers this?

[rbdazza]

I think the green genie is metal.

Has anyone seen the new green fuels (I think)? Its metal, sealed and does math recovery and venturi injection. Seems some are taking a leaf out of our books. Dread to think how much it costs like

[atimmyl]

no its defiantly metal dont know what meth recovery and venturi injection is ..... i am relay hoping it wont go bang or catch fire but luckily it is outside in the garden [under cover] that should help, it cost me 450 including ingredients [im told it was 3 grand new] so im happy with that because ive worked out the ingredient would be between 150 to 200 which i would have to buy[oil and the like] so realy the machine has cost 300.... a small price to pay if all goes well as my motorhome costs 100 to fill up i get around 450 miles out of the tank.... ive worked out oil 35p and all the rest 25p = 60p half the price of diesel saving 50 pounds every time i use the motorhome for a weekend [which in the summer is twice a month for four days at a time] so if all goes well it will pay back very quickly just got to figger it all out which im looking forward to i suppose its like every thing in life its all trial and error

[Tony]

Good to hear it's metal

Making bio is definitely a learning curve, so long as you know how to 3/27 the resulting fuel and do a soap test it you can be pretty confident in what goes into the motorhome.

[Julian]

I don't know about it either and they give very little away on their website as to how it's constructed, which is a little worrying!

This appears to be the most detail they give on what they are currently offering ...




Check that the lid seals tight and that it's vented properly once the lid's secured.
Check they haven't used any plastic pipe in the main processor circuit and preferably anywhere else that will see hot liquid.
If the site "glass" is plastic, you may want to consider fitting an isolating valve at the bottom.

It would be interesting to know how the two valves operate, most home grown processors have many more.
Did you get any instructions or manuals with it?
What sort and size of pump/s is/are fitted?

[atimmyl]

yep thats it ....there are three filters on the unit one with a 10 micron filter in it  which is connected to the final dispensing hose and there are two more filters which are full of silicon [i think] which recirculate back into the top of the tank[dry wash??] my unit has also been fitted with a wet wash which is a halo on the top of the drum and apparently it is automatic draining ,so water goes in the top and automaticly drains through the bottom without any oil in it [dont ask me how] i dident get any instructions with it [which is a pain] so i would be very grateful if any one knows where to get them or has hands on on this particular machine.... the main controls that you can see in the pictures are pretty self explanatory ,its the washing that s the baffling bit at the moment [ do you need to wash it??] or can you just filter it through the ten micron filter??

[dodge50]

ATIMMYL. I can email you the wash instructions for the Green Genie. I've been using one for the past few years and a big improvement on my DIY 220l barrel version. If you spray for more than an hour and a half the oil can get over saturated. For drying I heat the bio to 50 deg and run through the spray bar fo 3 hours [with the resin filter closed and processor lid off] and then another 2 hours [if it's cooled sufficiently] with the resin wash open.