Author Topic: Controls section  (Read 15975 times)

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2011, 11:36:06 AM »
Yes guys, I have a few diagrams, I see that one has appeared on the controls diagram page, the earliest I did I think...

On that same thread at goatforum 'adding pressure-level switch to prevent explosions' and at the end of thread, is the latest (and most complicated). Guess you can copy those, or I have the originals of all except the earliest.

Where do I upload the most basic diagram I mentioned earler?--Not all that familiar with the workings of wiki....
--Or should I send it to one of you guys?--You tell me whats best anyway.

Ive still a few diagrams left to draw, but they'll be adaptions or sections of whats been done already, so the differences should be clear to see....

You tell me whats needed diagram wise, and I'll sort it in next few days...

Alistair ...

It's really easy to up load to the wiki, instructions are included on this page ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Creating_pages

A quick wiz through that page should familiarise you with wiki basics, although you have done some wikiing before I think.
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2011, 11:37:32 AM »
So we're not treading on each others toes, I've started a page on thermocouples (in draft on my pc, not up loaded yet)
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Tony

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 5108
  • Fo' shizzle, biodizzle
    • Southampton Waste Oil Collection
  • Location: Southampton
Re: Controls section
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2011, 09:01:49 PM »
There are other wiki extensions that graphically assist with creating the co-ordinates - I'll have a look when I get a spare few moments (current batch I'm brewing is being a disaster)

Offline high compression ii

  • Wiki Editor
  • Oil stirrer
  • **
  • Posts: 57
Re: Controls section
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2011, 09:41:17 PM »
Yup--Looked at that 'new-page'--page, couldn't understand a bleed'n word!

Just tell me where to send, how to upload a diagram! I can mod a page if its there, but thats about all....

The only wikiing Ive done is addition to whats already been there, such as the Aixam page--I added a 'Aixam Mechanics' section, but the page existed before.....

All this talk of coordinates--I dunno, is it the Starship Enterprise??
In The Thermionic Past

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2011, 10:39:30 PM »
That's one of the nice things about the wiki several people can work on the same project.  I don't fully understand most of it, but it's fun playing!

Don't worry about the coordinates, I'll happily take care of that bit.  It just gives the facility to put several links within a diagram, that way we can take your schematic and make each component link to the pertinent wiki page.

You up load a photo or graphic thus ...

Give the file a suitable and descriptive name and make it no bigger than 2Mb, log in, click the “Upload file” link in the "tool box" in the side menu and simply follow the instructions, it's no more difficult than putting a photo on ebay.

If you still have  problems you are welcome to email them to me and I'll re-size if necessary and up-load for you.  In fact, if we are going to link components on the schematics, email them to me anyway and I'll sus out the coordinates bit before up loading.  julian (at) palmergroup dot co dot uk.

Let me know what the page is about I'll start the page/pages off for you.

Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Rob-b

  • Wiki Editor
  • Barrel scraper
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Controls section
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 02:52:06 PM »
HC

That's how I feel when I read your electrical explanations :-\  hehe

Each to their own, now if you want a mould making of something then I'm your man ;)

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2011, 03:30:37 PM »
Moulds, now that's interesting.  Mind elaborating Rob?
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Rob-b

  • Wiki Editor
  • Barrel scraper
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Controls section
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2011, 04:30:36 PM »
I am a moulder coremaker by trade, serving my time in heavy engineering for Rolls Royce making turbine casings for the middle east, it's a dying trade now with healthy and safety closing down foundries. I have since made for and advised folk how to make moulds for scultures, models casings like tram wheels or steam engine components or anything that is a casting basically.

Offline Tony

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 5108
  • Fo' shizzle, biodizzle
    • Southampton Waste Oil Collection
  • Location: Southampton
Re: Controls section
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2011, 04:38:54 PM »
That's interesting.  Both my grandfather (deceased) and father worked for RR.

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2011, 06:21:34 PM »
Agree, very interesting, I've cast model traction engine parts in the back garden, great fun and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Many I did chilled and were too hard to machine, but I'm looking forward to having the time to get back to it.  I'll know where to come for advise when I start it again, I had great trouble getting a "turn over pattern" for a flywheel to register properly, probably sloppy workmanship on my part!

Can you put your skills to use working out a way to cast a 4 port venturi using simple materials similar to ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Casting_a_venturi
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Rob-b

  • Wiki Editor
  • Barrel scraper
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Controls section
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2011, 08:38:26 PM »
To be honest the way Nige has set up his venturi casting is simple already, the only difficulty is getting a core machined the way he has but the pay back pretty quick once you have it and you have people buying from you, O got one from him, less hassle for the cost.

If I only I had access to the materials and a foundry I would have looked at coming up with a mould for casting two stage eductors in aluminium, as it happens I have made two for my new set up, but fabricated them, I will post photos once I know how and have completed the build of the processor.

For info I am also currently building a quad coil condenser using 8mm manifolds and 10 metres of copper tube housed in a 4 1/2 inch steel pipe. The theory being that it will be a lot easier to solder than trying to silver solder 4 x 15mm tubes and the flange to the outer tube wall all at once.

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2011, 09:23:10 PM »
Simple for one suction port but not for four.

Don't think alli would be much good in caustic.

Don't know if it will be any use to you, but did you see this method of making tube plates a little while back?

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17487
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Rob-b

  • Wiki Editor
  • Barrel scraper
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Controls section
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 08:52:41 AM »
Yes of course Ali would be no good, steel or brass.

What's the idea behind a 4 port venturi?

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 07:00:32 PM »
More suck.  A single port of  6-8mm is quite a constriction compaired with 15 or 22 mm pipework.

It's been modified since the photo was taken, but have a look at this ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/File:4_port_venturi5.JPG
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk

Offline Julian

  • Administrator
  • Oil baron
  • *******
  • Posts: 6389
    • Used Cooking Oil Collection website
  • Location: East Surrey, UK.
Re: Controls section
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2011, 09:38:17 PM »
Ok, I've added a category "Processor controls and instrumentation" and moved level switch and float switch to it.  Main page is set up to list new pages in that category.
Used Cooking Oil Collection website ... http://www.surreyusedcookingoilcollection.palmergroup.co.uk