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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2014, 09:47:39 AM »
I'm near Langport and will give a demonstration in return for chocolate biscuits. That said, I'm currently in Christchurch, Nz.

My advice on the pump would be to get the biggest you can... Or be prepared to use an eductor. IIt'll make the reaction so much easier.

Thanks Sir, langport is about 100m from me but let me know when you get back and ill see if I can get out there and find some Fox's Caramel Chocolate Chunkie Cookies to accompany me on my way.

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2014, 10:57:08 AM »
I'm near Langport and will give a demonstration in return for chocolate biscuits. That said, I'm currently in Christchurch, Nz.

My advice on the pump would be to get the biggest you can... Or be prepared to use an eductor. IIt'll make the reaction so much easier.

Thanks Sir, langport is about 100m from me but let me know when you get back and ill see if I can get out there and find some Fox's Caramel Chocolate Chunkie Cookies to accompany me on my way.

Mmm, if I transported such a biscuit there is little chance they would all reach their destination :)

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2014, 05:19:23 PM »
I'm in South East Cornwall (between Liskeard and Saltash) and have a rough idea what I am doing with this bio stuff

If you want to come down at some point and have a look / ask a few questions then be my guest.
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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2014, 06:13:54 PM »
... and have a rough idea what I am doing with this bio stuff ...

Boasting again!  We'll have to get you your own trumpet.
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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2014, 06:51:19 PM »

Boasting again!  We'll have to get you your own trumpet.

Oi, this forum ain't big enough for two Trumpets.

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2014, 08:47:20 PM »

Boasting again!  We'll have to get you your own trumpet.

Oi, this forum ain't big enough for two Trumpets.

Put your handbag down grumpy, Jules's trumpet is like one of those kids plastic ones compared to yours.
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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2014, 09:03:26 PM »
I was only trying to help the guy and I get accused of being a trumpeteer  :)
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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2014, 09:50:26 PM »
I was only trying to help the guy and I get accused of being a trumpeteer  :)

Don't worry Jules, that Julian just likes picking on anyone better at brewing, it's all sour grapes.

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2014, 08:11:56 AM »
I'm in South East Cornwall (between Liskeard and Saltash) and have a rough idea what I am doing with this bio stuff

If you want to come down at some point and have a look / ask a few questions then be my guest.


Perfect, I will be in touch soon so that we can work something out.

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2014, 08:18:37 AM »
To all the wiki contributors- AWESOME WIKI!

I've read some articles more than ten times and have printed out a hard copy of about half of the bio ones! ha

However, One thing I can seem to work out is the specifics for choosing between copper pipe diameters. Is this for the most part determined by things such as the pump you use, the amount of oil being processed etc? Or is there one common diameter that is most suitable for the majority of pipework?


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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2014, 09:45:17 AM »
Unless you choose to build some kind of super sized plant, 22mm pipe will do the job. If you really want to make things easy on your pump, run 28mm from the bottom of the processor to the pump and 22mm on the discharge side.

If you decide to use steel pipework instead of copper (as I have), then 1" is plenty big enough.
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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2014, 10:09:33 AM »
Unless you choose to build some kind of super sized plant, 22mm pipe will do the job. If you really want to make things easy on your pump, run 28mm from the bottom of the processor to the pump and 22mm on the discharge side.

If you decide to use steel pipework instead of copper (as I have), then 1" is plenty big enough.

Awsome, thanks! Steel sounds good to me, I wasnt aware of the option.

BTW, is something like this any good for pumping oil through a filter rig?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/grundfos-15-50-central-heating-pump-/251452836468?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item3a8bc1ca74


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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2014, 10:30:50 AM »
Cental heating pumps have very little power when it meets any kind of resistance. 

It'd be ok for running a condenser if you go for a GL.

What's this oil filter rig you speak of and what's it for?


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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2014, 10:36:13 AM »
Generally agree with Jules, but be guided to a certain extent by your pump connection sizes.  Many people use TAMs etc with  1" connections, so 22 mm will be OK, but with bigger pumps consider using 28mm at least for the suction.

The other reason for 22mm being a common choice is that benders for 22mm are readily available and easy to use.  Start trying to bend 28mm and you're looking at a serious bit of kit and muscle to bend it ... bent and swept bends being preferable to solder-on elbows.

If looking at steel pipe, have a think around car exhaust pipe.  I'm considering this for my long awaited processor rebuild.  For the pressures we use, you don't need a heavy schedule pipe.  Nice smooth bends can be bought at reasonable prices, many different diameters are available and you could even use stainless if you wish.  Down side is that all joints will need welding and you'll have to acquire flanges for points where the pipework will need dismantling.

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Re: Newbie caught the bug
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2014, 10:43:42 AM »
Cental heating pumps have very little power when it meets any kind of resistance. 

It'd be ok for running a condenser if you go for a GL.

What's this oil filter rig you speak of and what's it for?

Well, I have started attempting to build the rig found here: http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Waste_oil_filtering_system

I was under the impression that wvo needed to be filtered down to 5 or 1 micron before reacting? Am I wrong?
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