EA technicalities.

[julianf]

I have a 1000ltr IBC here, which i use for long term settling of liquid oil for winter /summer use.

Ie i only ever load it with filtered liquid oil, and use the top layers for winter fuel, so as to avoid having to use winterisers etc.

I was under the impression that as i was 'domestic' and the tank was <3500ltrs, this was compliant, but *if* its being classed as "storing waste oil" then its not compliant, as (it seems) any size container used to store 'waste' must have secondary containment (i think even a 20 ltr tin!?)


However, strangely enough, the processor itself does not require bunding.


Given that there is no limit on the quantity of oil that can be physically (rather than chemically) processed, is my 1000ltr IBC compliant or not, given my specific use of it (which is its actual use - its not just me trying to exploit a loop hole!)

[Keef]

I would imagine it's up to whoever is interpreting the rules.

For example, Is it still waste oil or is it fuel if it has been "put aside" for fuel?

[Keef]

Also, that cannot reasonably apply to domestic otherwise Mrs Fryeverything would need secondary containment for the oil she has just drained out of her deep fat fryer.

[julianf]

Also, that cannot reasonably apply to domestic otherwise Mrs Fryeverything would need secondary containment for the oil she has just drained out of her deep fat fryer.

I think its because they are not making fuel (ie are not controlled by form T19)

[kamaangir]

As a private/domestic producer you are exempt from the T19 as far as I am aware.

[julianf]

not fully -


http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/Business/T19_exemption.pdf

[Julian]

not fully -


http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/Business/T19_exemption.pdf

Is that document extant?  I thought the 250 ltr limit on batch size had been lifted.

[Bill]

I think if you have not done anything to the oil since it was collected it is still waste oil.
If you have filtered and/or de-watered it, (a physical tratment, not chemical) then it is no longer waste oil, more like work in progress. Storage limit 5000 litres.

[bradburypizza]

ok earlier this year January I had a visit from EA and they recommended that I bund my waste oil but did say it wasn't enforceable because I wasn't a commercial producer 

[Soft top]

I think if you have not done anything to the oil since it was collected it is still waste oil.

I might be wrong but I have always thought that as soon as the oil is collected it is no longer waste because we are going to use it. And also, that's why we don't need a waste carriers licence.
I also have a ibc without a bund that I store "used cooking oil" in. I thought it is ok without a bund because it is not "waste" oil in it.

[julianf]

unless the biodiesel is produced and supplied under the quality protocol for biodiesel, it is still waste

https://www.gov.uk/waste-exemption-t19-physical-and-chemical-treatment-of-waste-edible-oil-and-fat-to-produce-biodiesel

Regarding T19.  I would assume the waste / not waste classification was the same elsewhere too.