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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2013, 09:32:51 PM »
I had something similar the other day. I had some methanol delivered and left it outside for the night. In the morning I wheeled one drum, complete with a coating of frost into the workshop so I could make some bio.

No matter how hard I tried, I could not undo the 2" or 3/4" bung on the drum. I tried a basin wrench, piece of steel with a couple of bolts, all sorts of things that normally work fine.

In the end and a bit short of time, I took to drilling a small hole through the centre of the bung (slowly and rather nervously with plenty of oil on the bit I hasten to add - hoping that the oil would keep temps down and there would not be much in the way of Oxygen inside the drum with the methanol).

As soon as the bit was through, there was a dramatic flow of air through the hole into the drum. Once that stopped I was able to undo the bung as normal.
I can only presume that they were filled a somewhat higher temperature than I was trying to open them at and the resulting cooling of the vapour had caused a pressure drop.
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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2013, 09:46:18 PM »
Jules, I use a small bit of 50 x 20 box section, a big pair of adjustables and bruit false.
Works for me.
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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2013, 09:52:49 PM »
Every drum I have used I have managed to open simply enough with a basin wrench. Just this one that I couldn't get open by any means. Hence my assumption about the cold
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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2013, 10:03:29 PM »
Another way is to pour a kettle of boiling water onto  the top of the drum leave for a min tip the drum to remove water the use the tap wrench.
Maybe I'm just over safety 
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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2013, 10:19:23 PM »
Every drum I have used I have managed to open simply enough with a basin wrench. Just this one that I couldn't get open by any means. Hence my assumption about the cold

Same here Jules, basic wrench is king and never had a problem.  Seen some dramatic suction from Methanol drums but never one sucked in so hard it wouldn't shift :)

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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2013, 10:20:53 PM »
Another way is to pour a kettle of boiling water onto  the top of the drum leave for a min tip the drum to remove water the use the tap wrench.
Maybe I'm just over safety

OR undo the little 3/4" bung first, the breather, far less load on it.

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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2013, 10:27:50 PM »
I've made some changes (with much help from Julian) and it's now gone live on the wiki.  ;D
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Re: Importance of venting a processer page
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 10:21:07 AM »
Nice one Mark :)