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Offline countrypaul

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2022, 01:05:06 PM »
I'm just seeing a blank box with no image.

What browser are you using, can you try a different one? Have you checked the various setting?

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2022, 08:02:06 PM »
I'm just seeing a blank box with no image.

What browser are you using, can you try a different one? Have you checked the various setting?

I'm using my usual Firefox browser.

It seems to be working ok on the wiki pictures. Just this thread that is a problem.

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2022, 10:55:50 PM »
I'm just seeing a blank box with no image.

What browser are you using, can you try a different one? Have you checked the various setting?

I'm using my usual Firefox browser.

It seems to be working ok on the wiki pictures. Just this thread that is a problem.
I'm using Firefox 103.0.1 on windows 10 with no problems.

Can you try with Edge since M$ seem to install that anyway?

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2022, 11:05:25 AM »
I suspect the problem is with the version of Linux I am running.  For example I can't resolve mpeg4 format for videos, although I have no problem with mpeg3. So the pictures are likely to be in a format that my machine doesn't recognise. I'll connect up one of my other machines and see what happens.

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2022, 09:44:29 PM »
It might be more related to the boiling points, Kerosene/paraffin being around 180C where as biodiesel is around 360C (both are subjet to variations in content and  purity, and target market as well as Kerosene/paraffin having slightly different meanings in different locations).
That certainly seems a possible explanation. However, I would have thought that if it's lit, it's lit, and that flame front is therefore hot enough to ignite more local fuel.

Hence I was musing that if the flame extinguishes after a few minutes then it's running out of fuel, suggesting that the fuel is not climbing the wick sufficiently fast to maintain the flame.

However, if that was indeed the case, I would have expected mixing the bio with something lighter would fix the problem, but it didn't, so, well, I guess I'm wrong.

Suffice it to say, it'd be nice to diagnose this, as I'd quite like a bio greenhouse heater...

I tried mixing various combinations of biodiesel and isopropyl alcohol/methanol up to a mix of 4:1 biodiesel to alcohols, and still problems with yellow flames, ash and the wick burning down.  This was in an aladdin 14 type paraffin heater.

You might be able to burn a mix of kerosene and biodiesel if there is not much biodiesel, but that rather defeats the point!

I did build a mini heater that had just a steel bowl with a tall thin chimney and that worked a treat, lit with a rag as a wick then the heat was kept in the chamber and the surface of the biodiesel itself burned.

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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2022, 12:00:14 AM »
Bio will burn briefly with a wicked burner like that, but not for long before the wick burns down.  Even mixed with other solvents the same happens (I hoped to use bio in a greenhouse heater - no such luck).

Okay, yes, agreed, using only a basic wick my concoction will not climb the wick fast enough to remain lit. However, I still fancied a bio fuelled greenhouse heater, so here's my solution so far, built from scratch using the least amount of specialist materials or tools I could manage...

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cin9mbQPJZg/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Basically, a gravity feed to simply pump the bio up through the wick and onto its surface. It gets hot, it remains lit, and I haven't yet burned down my shed which is a bonus. The whole story so far can be found here...

https://www.instagram.com/greenshedbuilds


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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2022, 02:33:51 PM »
Bio will burn briefly with a wicked burner like that, but not for long before the wick burns down.  Even mixed with other solvents the same happens (I hoped to use bio in a greenhouse heater - no such luck).

Here's a neat idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2taNrdQh8&ab_channel=RobertMurray-Smith

Apparently, carbon felt will indeed wick thick vegetable oils, allowing you to build a greenhouse heater.


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Re: Success, I think.
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2022, 05:58:53 PM »
Bio will burn briefly with a wicked burner like that, but not for long before the wick burns down.  Even mixed with other solvents the same happens (I hoped to use bio in a greenhouse heater - no such luck).

Here's a neat idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2taNrdQh8&ab_channel=RobertMurray-Smith

Apparently, carbon felt will indeed wick thick vegetable oils, allowing you to build a greenhouse heater.

One of my greenhouses is in my 72 foot polytunnel. I over-winter some sensitive plants in it. It is double insulated with bubblewrap. the carbon wick method still puts too much smoke out to use it in a sealed space.

I have 3 types of heat in this greenhouse. An electric 180 watt tube heater, set to come on at 10degs. A 5kw chinese heater which uses 100mls of kero per hour on min. A thermobile 307 waste oil heater. Using a combination of these through the winter I seem to manage. Believe it or not the electric heater is the most economical!

I so wish i could use bio but it seems impossible. A little methanol heater would burn clean but with the present prices there would be no advantage over the Chinese heater on kerosene.
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