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Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 11:07:05 AM

Title: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/2012/10/17/08/42/health-concerns-over-sustainable-fuel

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They found that burning diesel fuels with a high percentage of biodiesel - up to 80 per cent - produced higher emissions of compounds linked to respiratory disease.

The compounds, called reactive oxygen species, form on surface of small soot particles in exhaust emissions.

Reactive oxygen species can lead to the cell damage called oxidative stress which, over long periods of time, can progress to serious respiratory disease.

I wonder if the same applies to Rapeseed (from which Canola was derived)?
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: kamaangir on October 18, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Makeituppedia seems to suggest that there are 2 variants, one made from a veriety of rapeseed and another from mustard seeds.

Isn't this sort of thing what the dpf is for?
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 12:37:54 PM
I guess so, but no way am I fitting one to the Delica!
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: therecklessengineer on October 18, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
If you read all these stories, then about 1/2 the things in the world will give you cancer and the other half will cure it.

I'm always very skeptical.
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 02:15:38 PM
They'll be telling us smoking tobacco is bad for us next :P
Wisdom from the country that is still destroying one of the most unique ecosystems in the world.
Seriously though, the report is a bit sparce on detail, just how much of this stuff do we have to ingest before it becomes a problem? Is it any worse than the fumes from Dino?


The team looked at a range of biologists made from soy, tallow and canola.

Ha ha! The tallow biologists work better in the heat.


Their work is aimed at providing the transport industry with fuels that have a favourable environmental impact and are acceptable from a human health perspective.

Also read as, Their work is aimed at gaining research projects for the university, especially now, considering that Bio from plants other than food stuffs is on the agenda.

I'm a cynical old blighter. :P
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 03:23:47 PM
http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=21642

What Bio fuel do they make from sugarcane? Ethanol?

Queensland University of technology is right into sugar cane country.

Wait for the follow up discovery that bio made from sugar cane has none of the health threats of that made from canola.

Had a quick look and it seems QUT keep the source of  their financial donations secret. I wonder why?
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
Sugar cane is usually for Ethanol biofuels.  How very convenient.  Sounds like you have every right to be suspicious about the source of this information - this "discovery" could well suit their objectives.
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 03:54:50 PM
Seems a waste. All that sugar cane, that could be turned into Bundaberg rum. YUMMY!
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: greasemonkey on October 18, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
It gets deeper and deeper.

http://www.qut.edu.au/research/research-projects/biofuel-engine-research-facility

From what I remember, about the only industry in Dalby is sugar cane, and the odd tourist.

Although to be fair, it looks like they are doing some quite interesting work on bio fuels, mainly ethanol, if you look around their site.
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: photoman290 on October 18, 2012, 05:27:14 PM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/2012/10/17/08/42/health-concerns-over-sustainable-fuel

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They found that burning diesel fuels with a high percentage of biodiesel - up to 80 per cent - produced higher emissions of compounds linked to respiratory disease.

The compounds, called reactive oxygen species, form on surface of small soot particles in exhaust emissions.

Reactive oxygen species can lead to the cell damage called oxidative stress which, over long periods of time, can progress to serious respiratory disease.

I wonder if the same applies to Rapeseed (from which Canola was derived)?
is "reactive oxygen species" just a more alarming way of saying free radicals? i like most on, here could be regarded as a free radical.
Title: Re: Don't breath your exhaust fumes if your bio is made from Soy or Canola
Post by: kamaangir on October 18, 2012, 05:36:21 PM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/2012/10/17/08/42/health-concerns-over-sustainable-fuel

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They found that burning diesel fuels with a high percentage of biodiesel - up to 80 per cent - produced higher emissions of compounds linked to respiratory disease.

The compounds, called reactive oxygen species, form on surface of small soot particles in exhaust emissions.

Reactive oxygen species can lead to the cell damage called oxidative stress which, over long periods of time, can progress to serious respiratory disease.

I wonder if the same applies to Rapeseed (from which Canola was derived)?
is "reactive oxygen species" just a more alarming way of saying free radicals? i like most on, here could be regarded as a free radical.

Free radicals shall remain in such state until matrimony, when this state is reached they are burdened with the yoke of matrimony and shall no longer be considered free! hahahaha

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D These are just to annoy Julian :o ;D :D ;) :P ::)