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Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: julesandtash on September 13, 2012, 11:46:37 PM
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Hi all,
I have now started a Sodium Methylate page after a request on VOD. At the moment it is not pretty but all the info is there to make a batch of good bio using Methylate.
I will tidy it up, add some pictures, make the formulae look pretty etc over the next few days but it's getting hard to keep my eyes open so that will have to do for one night.
Best wishes
Jules
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Nice one Jules. I plan to add it to the calculators above - its use discussed here:
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,278.30/ (see end of thread)
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Looking good :)
Might be an idea to change "trinity" to "a chemical supplier" or similar and with a bit of luck we may have more than the one soon with Nigels new supplier and i see Bob says he can get it,i wonder if he will post up who and where?
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I will change it when more suppliers are confirmed. The reason I have left it like that at the moment is because they are the only people who I can confirm sell it and have it in stock.
They have been plenty of fanciful suggestions on VOD of sources selling it that never came to maturity. I suspect NigelB will produce the goods as detailed in which case I will be happy to add details.
But, what I wanted was for somebody reading the article and wanting to use Methylate, to be able to go online and order some. At this moment in time, the only source I know that can provide that service is Trinity.
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Keith's quite correct, assisting people in locating Methylate is very commendable, but one of the wiki's principals is to be unbiased and not promote commercial operations. To this end we refer to ebay as an on line auction site, and intentionally don't refer people to Machine Mart for TAM spares etc.
It may be better to refer to Trinity generically as a chemical supplier. Using Methylate is currently quite a specialised operation and anyone really intent on using it should have no problem in locating Trinity.
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No probs. I will amend that section later.
I didn't realise it was quite like the BBC where labels have to be covered to prevent inadvertent advertising. I guess if I read the conditions a bit more before I started I would have. Anyway, my apologies and I will correct it later today when I do some more on the article
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No apology needed, Jules! Appreciate your changing it.
We just want to guard against commercial operations turning the site into an advertising hording.
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Looking good :)
Might be an idea to change "trinity" to "a chemical supplier" or similar and with a bit of luck we may have more than the one soon with Nigels new supplier and i see Bob says he can get it,i wonder if he will post up who and where?
I think I've found Bob's source of "methylate" See below:
http://www.dtchemicals.co.uk/index.php?l=product_detail&p=299
I know he deals with DT and I'll confirm this tomorrow when I see him. I've also added this link to the VOD thread.
It seems as though what Bob is talking about is a 28% catalyst/methanol mix and not 30% ASM.
Nige
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It seems a bit pointless paying extra just for somebody else to mix the Hydroxide (be that Sodium or, as in the link, Potassium) and methanol then bottle it. Far more expensive that it costs to make at home and still has the disadvantage of having water from the chemical processes.
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I don't think Bob realises what he posted up. I don't think he fully understood what he was looking at.
Nige
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Bob has now confirmed that he was looking at premixed methoxide.
Nige
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I have now tidied up the Methylate page to make it look a lot nicer. Hopefully it will prove useful
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Looking good! 8)