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Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: Glycer-rides on September 09, 2012, 07:40:03 PM

Title: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Glycer-rides on September 09, 2012, 07:40:03 PM
Just wondering if those that did WBD have continued doing so, having gone 'titless'?

Reasons not to, for me, being:
not having to reintroduce the S1 glyc, thus saving time.
not reusing less pure meth, so improving conversion.
using the meth rich glyc for oil pre-wash - it's more liquid and one gets that 'locked in bio' conversion, upping yield.

So what are you doing?
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Tony on September 09, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
Must admit I still titrate and WBD.  But when it comes to the big processor I'll be giving titless a go again, if for no other reason than to justify the purchase of that rather nice glassware at the BBB.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Glycer-rides on September 09, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
I've seen the thread on yours and keith's big boys - very nice tanks.

Another reason to add (for me) is that the bottom iron pipework on the mk3 is not at all conducive to dismantling, if the glyc should set.
I'm usually brewing at night and sometimes I can't finish it all off, so this can be problematic.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: kamaangir on September 10, 2012, 01:47:05 AM
I've seen the thread on yours and keith's big boys - very nice tanks.

Another reason to add (for me) is that the bottom iron pipework on the mk3 is not at all conducive to dismantling, if the glyc should set.
I'm usually brewing at night and sometimes I can't finish it all off, so this can be problematic.


HAHAHA I told you not to sell your oxy welding kit! You could have heated the living daylights out of your iron pipes to get the glyc moving! hahaha

Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Head Womble on September 10, 2012, 09:41:27 PM
I was doing gly wash, Non titration and WBD, but recently (after my jelly batches) I've gone back to standard demeth.

Mainly to keep the gly liquid as I've stopped the water prewash, as I think this is what was coursing the problem,
also I was suffering from HMPE's (I still have no idea why NON titration and WBD suffer in this way) and it's stopped this now.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Glycer-rides on September 11, 2012, 12:30:46 AM
I've seen the thread on yours and keith's big boys - very nice tanks.

Another reason to add (for me) is that the bottom iron pipework on the mk3 is not at all conducive to dismantling, if the glyc should set.
I'm usually brewing at night and sometimes I can't finish it all off, so this can be problematic.


HAHAHA I told you not to sell your oxy welding kit! You could have heated the living daylights out of your iron pipes to get the glyc moving! hahaha

The bottle rental cost would have silenced even Basil Brush, FFOXS! Hahahaha, Boom Boom!

And:for why, have you got more barrel icons than me, when I'm beating you, post-wise?
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: kamaangir on September 11, 2012, 12:41:42 AM
Coz I is a wiki editer innit dough bruv hahaha Plus I get more oil than you!

I think I joined when Tony 1st set this up hence the barrels are a representation of my status as something of an avantgarde, just like my merc hahaha
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 02:00:48 AM
Right! Who else wants to be a wiki editor?
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Julian on September 11, 2012, 10:10:55 AM
I had a look at that recently.  At some point, which I think I missed, the sign up procedure was changed from admin approval to automatic acceptance.

Previously, people known to admin were given wiki editor status when they were approved.  Now there's no approval, we don't want just anyone with editing rights, so recent members become "Barrell scrapers".

Unfortunately, not too many people contribute to the wiki, so not having editing rights shouldn't be a problem.

Anyone wanting to edit or contribute to the wiki, who isn't a "Wiki editor" only has to ask and we can alter their status.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
Might have a look at whether the number of barrels can always be post count based rather than five just for being an editor/admin.  Seems a touch unfair.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
So I've tweaked it now so that barrels are purely post count based, being an admin/moderator/wiki editor gives you nothing special :)
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: laurie on September 19, 2012, 06:35:49 AM
i went titless and in my small home made 20l unit ive had 100% success on over 300l with no drop out on any batch ive made.  cant use anything bigger than the 25l chicken drinker due to lack of space as sons motorbikes take up all the space
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Rotary-Motion on September 19, 2012, 06:51:28 AM
i went titless and in my small home made 20l unit ive had 100% success on over 300l with no drop out on any batch ive made.  cant use anything bigger than the 25l chicken drinker due to lack of space as sons motorbikes take up all the space

nice one laurie, but would be nice if son gave abit of space back and make bigger batches, although if the amount suits your needs, everybodies happy :)

well done on the tests....
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: laurie on October 10, 2012, 09:11:03 PM
would love to go bigger but 20l batches isnt too bad at moment but do intend going bigger when he moves out next year.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Chug on October 11, 2012, 09:13:47 AM
still doing no titration and wbd as I've done for the last few years, ifn it aint broke I don't fix it.
Title: Re: No titration and WBD.
Post by: Head Womble on October 11, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
still doing no titration and wbd as I've done for the last few years, ifn it aint broke I don't fix it.

Chug, from what I remember your no titration isn't quite the same as ours, unless you've changed things that is.

Can I ask if you suffer from HMPE's with your method ?