Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum

Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: Bio-boy on February 02, 2016, 11:29:44 PM

Title: Latest batch....
Post by: Bio-boy on February 02, 2016, 11:29:44 PM
Decided to cold wash my latest batch. Having obtained a complete 10/90 pass via a 2 stage reaction i opted to cold wash; 1 to save money and 2 to to try something different. I noticed that cold washing appeared to cause greater soap to settle after each wash cycle. I washed the batch 5 times which is the same as my usual hot wash process yet by cold washing I appeared to be removing more soap. Water was then crystal clear so I then dried my batch using the same process as usual and sent a sample away for testing.
Results for soap content came back non-detectable i.e. less than 10ppm.  :D
It may have been beginners luck but I'm liking the results.
I will continue to cold wash for my next few batches to confirm if cold washing really is the way forward.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: neisel on February 03, 2016, 12:46:13 AM
Does it take a lot longer for the wash water to settle out?
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: Bio-boy on February 03, 2016, 07:41:05 AM
In my experience thus far, no. It was my first attempt at it but I'm very happy with the results.
dgs tested my sample and the soap was non-detectable which I'm informed means <10ppm.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: dgs on February 03, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Interesting post Rob. I wouldn't have believed cold washing would be so efficient.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: Chug on February 03, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
When I used to wash it was always cold, I didn't think anyone used warm water, certainly not when I was washing, HCII first told me to do it cold when I asked about washing for the first time and I always had good results.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: Bio-boy on February 03, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
When I used to wash it was always cold, I didn't think anyone used warm water, certainly not when I was washing, HCII first told me to do it cold when I asked about washing for the first time and I always had good results.

Chug I don't mean using warm water....I mean using cold water straight from my mains supply and washing when the bio is also cold/ambient temperature. Initially I was looking to see if I could reduce processing costs/time by now having to heat the bio prior to washing.

Initial results look promising but further testing will be necessary just incase it was a fluke this time around.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: Chug on February 04, 2016, 12:12:11 AM
yes I know, that is what I was saying too

I always washed cold bio with cold water, its not a fluke it works perfectly

Using warm water and/or warm bio seems all wrong to me, if people do this then things have gone backwards it seems.
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: biobill on February 04, 2016, 01:21:15 AM
 I have always used hot water in my hot bio and had no problems what so ever and I use a 5 inch twin blade paddle running at 2850rpm now that's what you call washing bio lol
Title: Re: Latest batch....
Post by: Bio-boy on February 04, 2016, 08:17:59 AM
I have always used hot water in my hot bio and had no problems what so ever and I use a 5 inch twin blade paddle running at 2850rpm now that's what you call washing bio lol

What sort of soap content are you left with on completion of your washing process?