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Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: Bio-boy on April 26, 2015, 07:09:48 PM

Title: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Bio-boy on April 26, 2015, 07:09:48 PM
I have just done a 10/90 test and had .3 fallout. Would you bother re-reacting or would you accept that result.

I was rushed for time so didn't spend as much time as I usually would processing the batch.
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Jamesrl on April 26, 2015, 07:33:04 PM
I have just done a 10/90 test and had .3 fallout. Would you bother re-reacting or would you accept that result.

I was rushed for time so didn't spend as much time as I usually would processing the batch.

It depends on what vehicle it'll be used in, personally I would but then I drive a common rail.

It never pays to rush a brew.
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: BassAddict on April 26, 2015, 07:33:59 PM
I wouldn't but that's because I've got a car that will run on veg if needed.

Would be cautious about an emulsion if adding any water in your process though.
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: K.H on April 26, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
As said your car will dictate the answer
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Bio-boy on April 26, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
110 TDi
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Dickjotec on April 26, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
Vag 110 TDI is a veg motor I would not bother even if it was much higher.
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: dgs on April 27, 2015, 03:27:33 PM
I have just done a 10/90 test and had .3 fallout. Would you bother re-reacting or would you accept that result.

I was rushed for time so didn't spend as much time as I usually would processing the batch.

As said, for an indirect injection engine, don't bother. If it was direct, common rail, ideally the dropout should be zero.

I am informed that from GC testing/10/90 test the bonded glycerine spec will just pass if the dropout does not exceed 0.15mls. This figure is based on the fact that up to 2% triglycerides will not show up on a 10/90 test due to their small solubility in methanol. This is also why if the 10/90 test shows a pass, then the conversion should be expressed as
> (greater than) 98%
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Jmg on April 28, 2015, 05:29:32 PM
I never did a second stage when driving veg friendly motors no matter how bad the result so in the end I stopped testing.
Title: Re: Would you bother re-reacting.....
Post by: Tony on April 28, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
I used to run partial conversion in the Delica all the time.  The only thing I would add is that sometimes a partial conversion seems to stop the soaps settling out properly, and clouds very easily with moisture.

These days I'm picky and always got for a clear pass even though the car is a proper Bosch veg muncher.  Do a job properly and all that ;)