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Biodiesel => Chemistry and process => Topic started by: biofuelsGP on October 16, 2014, 07:26:28 PM

Title: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: biofuelsGP on October 16, 2014, 07:26:28 PM
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Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Julian on October 16, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
Welcome to the wiki and forum.

Thanks for sharing your link.  I've looked it, but can't really see what you are aiming to achieve with the page.  Is it a commercial venture?
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: greasemonkey on October 16, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
Welcome, hope you like the forum.
I tend to agree with what Julian says, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
Knowing all about the different biofuels engines can run on is all well and good, but doesn't add up to much if you still getting fuel from the pump.
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Jamesrl on October 16, 2014, 09:14:00 PM
A bit out of date, does anyone titrate nowadays, and 20% methanol?
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Julian on October 16, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
Yes to the titration.
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: GedsJeep on October 16, 2014, 10:28:06 PM
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Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: K.H on October 16, 2014, 10:43:25 PM
Yes to the titration.
I dont titrate when im making soap, new method? :)
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Jamesrl on October 17, 2014, 12:35:32 AM
Yes to the titration.

Why?
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Julian on October 17, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
Yes to the titration.

Why?

Well, it's all to do with the FFA in the oil.  When we make biodiesel we need to know the FFA (that's Free Fatty Acid) level in order ....


Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
Presumably oil it titrated and checked for water commercially before payment is made on an oil consignment.  I bet high titrating oil fetches less than low titrating oil.

I'm with Jim, I suspect many homebrewers doing two stage one way or another don't titrate - that said it's useful when you're starting out to get a feel for the FFA level of the oil that's coming in.
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Jamesrl on October 17, 2014, 05:07:27 PM


 When we make biodiesel we need to know the FFA (that's Free Fatty Acid) level in order ....

No we don't,  thats the beauty of the Titless method, the clue is in the name.
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Julian on October 17, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Same as sex really ... I tried it once and didn't like it.

More buggering about than it's worth in my books.

Its got a major flaw in that a 3/27 takes time to give a true reading.  I can do several titrations while waiting for a 3/27 and I start out knowing the exact quality of the oil I'm using.

Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Jamesrl on October 17, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
Same as sex really ... I tried it once and didn't like it.

More buggering about than it's worth in my books.

Its got a major flaw in that a 3/27 takes time to give a true reading.  I can do several titrations while waiting for a 3/27 and I start out knowing the exact quality of the oil I'm using.

Mmmmmmmmmm! But I don't make soap or get fecked batches, I did have one poor batch in the very very very early days of brewing.

I'm either VERY lucky or I have a rough idea like of what I's dooin, yeh.
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: rbdazza on October 18, 2014, 07:19:54 AM
I've never titrated, I had a problem when I started trying to measure dropout with out a proper flask but other than that my problems have been when I've been too lazy o make sure the oils dry
Title: Re: BIOFUELS GREENPOWER
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
I'm with the dazzmeister, you can get away with all sorts with nice dry oil.  Water is evil.