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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2013, 11:48:55 PM »
Jut give 'im the pump and stop his 'kin' whining, he's worse than a kid, I wan' I wan' I wan'.

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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2013, 09:40:29 AM »

The objective is to have an area that remains immaculately clean,

This is an incompatable statement for wvo processing or biodiesel manufacture.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2013, 09:53:59 AM »

The objective is to have an area that remains immaculately clean,

This is an incompatable statement for wvo processing or biodiesel manufacture.

I know, but I'm always striving for the impossible... in the end 95% there would be good enough.

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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2013, 08:44:39 PM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2013, 08:51:51 PM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.

Mine is ! ! !


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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2013, 10:24:13 PM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.

I can't even see my comercial process for the mess.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2013, 10:41:12 PM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.

I can't even see my comercial process for the mess.
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Paul

Sounds like a proper bio plant.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2013, 11:25:10 PM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.

I can't even see my comercial process for the mess.
(Carrington fuels where IBC's come to die ).

Paul

It's part of the culture :)  Or the culture grows on it, one of the two.

When I first visited someone with a bio setup I thought "mine will never be a filthy mess like this"

Good job I wasn't wearing a hat or I'd be eating it right now.

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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2013, 11:41:02 PM »
The only thing that needs to be clean to a high standard is the fuel, after that who cares.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2013, 07:30:52 AM »
I have yet to see anybody's production area, be they a domestic or commercial producer, that is immaculately clean.

I can't even see my comercial process for the mess.
(Carrington fuels where IBC's come to die ).

Paul

How very true  :)
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2013, 01:40:50 PM »
Don't think my Mrs. will allow me to have a machine back here if there's gonna b a mess (as there have been in the past)...

We're building a new dining room and landscaping. It's be nice if there was no sign of any bio etc. outside of the new shed and a shiny processor with clean floor inside the shed.

I guess a lot of it will be to do with how careful I am and how diligent I am at cleaning any splashes / spills.   That said there are things the contribute to cleanliness, for example; if you can have fixed piping between tanks and pump everything rather than pour from containers that helps.  The only weakness will be getting unfiltered oil into a tank at the start of the process.
 

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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2013, 01:49:39 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit of an odd ball then ... my shed's reasonably clean, I think the sink with running water helps.  I have some very tasteful blue lino on the floor and make a point of wiping up every spill.  The "shelves" where the storage barrels sit are covered in sheet PVC and drain into a piece of guttering, from which I can drain any spills (think it's shown on the wiki.

Nathan, you're right about pumping everything.  Incoming oil is pumped out of cubies and metal drums with the Mono pump.  It's self priming and will deal with small lumps and fats without problem.
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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2013, 02:02:13 PM »
hmm thats interesting you could have like one dirty area, no liquid are taken into shed, everything is pumped in and pumped out of shed, shed stays clean.

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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2013, 02:47:36 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit of an odd ball then ... my shed's reasonably clean, I think the sink with running water helps.  I have some very tasteful blue lino on the floor and make a point of wiping up every spill.  The "shelves" where the storage barrels sit are covered in sheet PVC and drain into a piece of guttering, from which I can drain any spills (think it's shown on the wiki.

Nathan, you're right about pumping everything.  Incoming oil is pumped out of cubies and metal drums with the Mono pump.  It's self priming and will deal with small lumps and fats without problem.

mate - u got a link for mono pumps?  How much are they?

btw Think I'm goin a bit pump mad at the mo, got a couple of stuart pumps off Steve (drying solution?), 3 x 110 lpm pumps from Glenn aka JGS (2 for processing and 1 for glyc washing etc?), a gear pump (on polish and dispense - might put another gear pump in for filtering feedstock - not sure if there's any value in this), a tam on my polishing / dispensing drum and a big B&Q pump which should be fine with oil, but not bio (not sure on a use for this yet).

Reckon that I will only have two tanks in the shed, one will be a processor - hopefully 450 litre SS, and one conical for dewatering etc.  My final polish tank will stay in the garage to make dispensing easy.


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Re: Bio plant shed
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2013, 03:04:53 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit of an odd ball then ... my shed's reasonably clean, I think the sink with running water helps.  I have some very tasteful blue lino on the floor and make a point of wiping up every spill.  The "shelves" where the storage barrels sit are covered in sheet PVC and drain into a piece of guttering, from which I can drain any spills (think it's shown on the wiki.

Nathan, you're right about pumping everything.  Incoming oil is pumped out of cubies and metal drums with the Mono pump.  It's self priming and will deal with small lumps and fats without problem.



mate - u got a link for mono pumps?  How much are they?

btw Think I'm goin a bit pump mad at the mo, got a couple of stuart pumps off Steve (drying solution?), 3 x 110 lpm pumps from Glenn aka JGS (2 for processing and 1 for glyc washing etc?), a gear pump (on polish and dispense - might put another gear pump in for filtering feedstock - not sure if there's any value in this), a tam on my polishing / dispensing drum and a big B&Q pump which should be fine with oil, but not bio (not sure on a use for this yet).

Reckon that I will only have two tanks in the shed, one will be a processor - hopefully 450 litre SS, and one conical for dewatering etc.  My final polish tank will stay in the garage to make dispensing easy.

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