Govt to outlaw any kind of vehicle modifications....

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( https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...ersion.pdf )

Future of transport regulatory review consultation:
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We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle
intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in
the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for
tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’
services or products.
This will strengthen our ability to enforce compliance in this area.
We are aware that the Law Commissions in both their first and third consultations on
automated vehicles have considered tampering. We await their final recommendations and
would welcome views on our proposals, as follows.
(goes on to describe how to respond)

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The above is copied from govt transport regulatory authority.

--This above makes any/all vehicle alterations/modifications illegal.
It later goes on to try and dilute the above by saying its only safety or emissions related--But such mods are already illegal anyway...

They are trying to quietly slip this into law as the bastards have cut short the public enquiry response period from 12 weeks, now stands at 6 weeks....

[DavidA]

So, no more nodding dogs on the rear window shelf (restricts vision).

Dave.

(aka dva)

[Tony]

That's the problem, I'm sure it's to tighten up modification of emissions systems, but the wording is so broad it could be applied to anything (depending on how overzealous the inspecting authority is!)

[Head Womble]

If this was to get through, surely it would only be vehicles built after the date it was passed.
If not there'll a lot of cars that will fall foul overnight.

The French have had laws like this for a long time.

[DavidA]

There was a scifi story based on this.

In the story, there are 'flying cars'. But they are fitted with devices that don't allow them to fly below a certain height ; except to land.
Anyway, someone mods his so he can fly at street level. He hits and kills a child. The ever vigilant police very quickly get him. Find what he has done, and a computer court sentences him to death for tampering with the machine. He is vapourised.

All in the space of half an hour.

Can we look forward to seeing drivers shot at the side of the road for having radar trap detectors fitted to their cars ?

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Such draconian crap is of course, Unworkable. We are getting used to draconian crap aint we! First covid--will morph into climate-change, and nothing they do about that will lower the 0.04% CO2 atmospheric content...

I'm absolutely sure the exact wording of the above paragraph will go into law, More control, More money extracted from motorists.

But--As I say, Ive done a lot of thought on this--Its just not workable. Copper stops a car--Its possibly modded. A copper has no expertise or the specialised knowledge to say that the vehicle is modded or not. In some cases mods are invisible anyway....

Copper aint gonna waste his time trying....

There are laws about modding safety related items and emission control systems, so making yet More laws like this is just a load of crap. Mandarins in whitehall in their stinktanks coming up with stuff to keep themselves in jobs for the most part--Bit like those unelected wasters in the european parleament...

Ah well,--We see....

[DavidA]

But the people at the Test Station do know what should and should not be there.

If they can fail you for a cracked number plate then they will really go to town on a bolt-on nitro injection system.

I suspect it will be the MOT examiners who get the job.

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Aye--Poor old MOT Tester thrown under the bus again!. I used to be a Tester, you get no more money over a std mechanic wage in most cases, have all the responsibility of examining the vehicle for safety and emissions, all in the space of 3/4 hour, Now they'll add more (superfluous) tasks for you to do, not forgetting that if you get it wrong, severe penalties can result.

DavidA mentions that the people at the testing station will know what is supposed to or not supposed to be on a vehicle--I say no--They wont! Unless-- its an obvious non original part or the owner deletion/omission of a part.

 How can they know Every vehicle and all its accessories and different parts sourced by the makers from different parts suppliers used for different models of the same car--Impossible!
Best you'll have is a website with that info saying what devices are fitted--And that itself would be unworkable also.

--What about the invisible stuff? The remaps etc,-- A good one wont show up!

Nah, the job of Nominated Tester, (MOT Tester) will be shunned by current testers and anyone with a brain! Too much More Extra hassle for zero benefit to the tester.

Oh--And all those Co's currently offering remaps for this, that and a de-catting or egr delete or two--Well, they'll be out of business overnight They actually specify that in the blurb that is with this lot of proposed legislation.

Really getting to utterly Hate that word, --Legislation. (AKA--lets screw the feckers for whatever we can get!~)

[Mr Tickle]

 
So my DPF delete/EGR delete and Re-map could come back and bite me.

I wonder if using Bio could classed as an illegal modification from what the manufacturer intended, ever if the production and use of it legal.

[knighty]

So my DPF delete/EGR delete and Re-map could come back and bite me.

I wonder if using Bio could classed as an illegal modification from what the manufacturer intended, ever if the production and use of it legal.

you won't be able to tell without removing stuff to check?  - exhaust from egr or exhaust one side of the dpf ?

they'll never plug into the obd port for stuff like this, there's too many variables - only way it would work if manufacturers were forced to set up a simple protocol/system for people plugging in to check emissions stuff... but even then you're dependent on the people remapping the ecu to disable the egr and dpf not to also make it give trick readings to say it is working?

[Head Womble]

So my DPF delete/EGR delete and Re-map could come back and bite me.

I wonder if using Bio could classed as an illegal modification from what the manufacturer intended, ever if the production and use of it legal.

It depends how it's been done, some DPF delete pipes are just that, a straight pipe instead of a box, with no NOX or O2 sensors, these will be easily seen.

[Tony]

Where there's a will there's a way.  I'm sure you can hollow out a DPF and intercept sensor signals to lie to the ECU.  Whether you should, morally, well - that's a question best left to the reader!

I've always thought that governments like to have at least one catastrophe of some sort on hand, it gives people something to worry about rather than inspect the incompetence of the self-serving leadership.