Breakdown services.

[julianf]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I think the spider Julian's referring to is the alarm/immobiliser box I mentioned ... he certainly hit the right part of the dash.  Don't hit the cup holders ... they break very easily!

Usually the problem with this box is dry joints that make and break as heat expands the board.  I can't remember if the problem will prevent the starter turning or just sop the fuel solenoid working.  Quick fix in either case is to hot wire both the starter and fuel solenoid (you could run wires under the bonnet ready for the next event.  Just pop the lid fix the fuel solenoid wire on the battery positive and just touch the starter wire to it ... it's got no choice but to start then and no more embarrassing hanging around in petrol stations.

Yep.

Landrover even have a part number for the bypass loom...

It disables the whole lot.  Keys do nothing - not even a click, IIRC.

Im told that, if you know what youre feeling for, and have small hands, its possible to fit the bypass loom through the radio slot, but i tried to get my arm in there, not knowing what i was doing, and just felt a load of 'bits of car dash'.

Otherwise its dashboard dismantling to get to it.

[Julian]

[Otherwise its dashboard dismantling to get to it.

On the old Disco it took me three hours to get it out and about 15 mins to resolder the board.

[Soft top]

[Otherwise its dashboard dismantling to get to it.

On the old Disco it took me three hours to get it out and about 15 mins to resolder the board.

D

I found an easier fix for the spider problem.... I sold the manual Disco and bought an auto one.
The autos dont have the spider.

[photoman290]

we use green flag. covers both the van and the car 3  named drivers. van is 1991 car is 1998 £120 a year. most of the time  when we have had to use them they have a quick look and call out the  recovery truck rather that try and fix it. when they have fixed it is is usually a bodge i end up fixing myself anyway. when i used international breakdown they couldnt find me on the main road between buckingham and milton keynes in daylight for 5 hours, then  stopped at newport pagnell services for 3 hours as well. 11 hours to get from buckingham to cambridge.

[Jmg]

AA, RAC and Autoaid have all collected dead cars for me with no explanation required, even when veg had caused the pump on the Estima to leak so badly it didn't have enough power to move the guy just hooked it up and driven away.

The RAC have been the most spectacularly dimwitted so far though, having sent out a regular van to pick up a lwb transit minibus and on top of that at Easter my phonecall to them had 5 mins of me walking down the hard shoulder proving to them there was no emergency phone near me, that wouldn't have been too bad but then they scrambled my details from 2 adults, 6 kids and a caravan to 5 adults and bulky luggage took another half hour to sort out a loan car to get the rest of us home.

[Head Womble]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I'm still enjoying it.
Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.
I've just ordered a set of valve stem seals and the tool to compress the valves without removing the head, hopefully this will stop the cloud of blue smoke when first starting or if ideling for to long.
Not too bad in 5k, bearing in mind I've done some green laneing and pay & play sites.

All in all I love it, easy to fix and for fills my tinkering needs.
Plus it's great fun off road.

[Julian]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I'm still enjoying it.
Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.
I've just ordered a set of valve stem seals and the tool to compress the valves without removing the head, hopefully this will stop the cloud of blue smoke when first starting or if ideling for to long.
Not too bad in 5k, bearing in mind I've done some green laneing and pay & play sites.

All in all I love it, easy to fix and for fills my tinkering needs.
Plus it's great fun off road.

I've had the valve guides break before now, so no matter how good the seal is it will still leak oil to the exhaust port.

Don't know how this compressor works, sounds interesting, but if it allows you to give the top of the guide a good tug, give it a try.   Paddocks parts are very cheap about 99p if I remember, but they need reaming to fit ... beggers belief in this day and age!

[Head Womble]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I'm still enjoying it.
Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.
I've just ordered a set of valve stem seals and the tool to compress the valves without removing the head, hopefully this will stop the cloud of blue smoke when first starting or if ideling for to long.
Not too bad in 5k, bearing in mind I've done some green laneing and pay & play sites.

All in all I love it, easy to fix and for fills my tinkering needs.
Plus it's great fun off road.

I've had the valve guides break before now, so no matter how good the seal is it will still leak oil to the exhaust port.

Don't know how this compressor works, sounds interesting, but if it allows you to give the top of the guide a good tug, give it a try.   Paddocks parts are very cheap about 99p if I remember, but they need reaming to fit ... beggers belief in this day and age!

I'm not changing the guides, just the seals.

[GedsJeep]

Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.

 

[Julian]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I'm still enjoying it.
Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.
I've just ordered a set of valve stem seals and the tool to compress the valves without removing the head, hopefully this will stop the cloud of blue smoke when first starting or if ideling for to long.
Not too bad in 5k, bearing in mind I've done some green laneing and pay & play sites.

All in all I love it, easy to fix and for fills my tinkering needs.
Plus it's great fun off road.

I've had the valve guides break before now, so no matter how good the seal is it will still leak oil to the exhaust port.

Don't know how this compressor works, sounds interesting, but if it allows you to give the top of the guide a good tug, give it a try.   Paddocks parts are very cheap about 99p if I remember, but they need reaming to fit ... beggers belief in this day and age!

I'm not changing the guides, just the seals.

I know that!

A snapped guide will give the same effect as as a worn seal.  But you can't tell if the guide is broken until you take it appart.

If you're taking the rocker shaft off it will be worth having a few lash caps handy too. They often wear through the hardened surface and are only pennys to replace.

[Rossey]

For the first time this year I got breakdown cover for me and the wife.

And I actually broke down.

I'm with the RAC

I broke down on the edge of town on a country road.
Rang up they asked me for a postcode!
It took 30mins with the girl staring at google maps and me direction her finger and she still sent the guy two miles in the wrong direction.

Nice guy told him what tools I needed did it my self, found a snapped belt.

So he towed me home and said he's not gonna recorded it as he didn't do anything.

Never mentioned that it wasnt diesel in the injectors.

[photoman290]

post code? what? you are one of those weideos who doesnt have a satnav?

[Rossey]

post code? what? you are one of those weideos who doesnt have a satnav?

I do have a satnav the problem was i was talking to her on it.

[photoman290]

  bit like ntl telling me that i could find all the infomation about getting online on  their website, while i was trying to get online.

[Head Womble]

Mark,

Are you still enjoying landrover ownership?  Have you found things to break more or less than you expected?

Ours woulnt start the other day.  We had just stopped off at the city dump, turned the keys to leave and nothing...

It happened once before, ages back, and i push started, and it was all fine again after.  Suspected spider issue.

This time i whacked the cupholder / radio area a few times, and, sure enough, started.

I dont know if the spider has physical relays on it, or if its just bad connetions.

I'm still enjoying it.
Not had to change to many parts as yet, just thermostat, A/C belt tensioner, aux belt,  starter motor, rear discs and pads, exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust down pipe (came with a spare), rear door central locking solenoid and a plastic three way connector on the cooling system.
Plus replace a few lecy connecters.
I've just ordered a set of valve stem seals and the tool to compress the valves without removing the head, hopefully this will stop the cloud of blue smoke when first starting or if ideling for to long.
Not too bad in 5k, bearing in mind I've done some green laneing and pay & play sites.

All in all I love it, easy to fix and for fills my tinkering needs.
Plus it's great fun off road.

I've had the valve guides break before now, so no matter how good the seal is it will still leak oil to the exhaust port.

Don't know how this compressor works, sounds interesting, but if it allows you to give the top of the guide a good tug, give it a try.   Paddocks parts are very cheap about 99p if I remember, but they need reaming to fit ... beggers belief in this day and age!

I'm not changing the guides, just the seals.

I know that!

A snapped guide will give the same effect as as a worn seal.  But you can't tell if the guide is broken until you take it appart.

If you're taking the rocker shaft off it will be worth having a few lash caps handy too. They often wear through the hardened surface and are only pennys to replace.

What are lash caps ?