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Re: Newbie
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 06:47:02 PM »
What Grumpy and Stumpy said, as well, also.
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Re: Newbie
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2013, 06:52:59 PM »
I agree with Grumpy, Stumpy and Greasy.
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Re: Newbie
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2013, 07:13:32 PM »
So why for I labeled grumpy old git then?

I ain't not neva grumpy, sarcy, pi$$ taking but grumpy nah.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2013, 07:40:36 PM »
And why am I stumpy now?
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Re: Newbie
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2013, 07:59:58 PM »
Quote from: Julian link=topic=that95.msg20085#msg20085 date=1386445236
And why am I stumpy now?

I never said you were, that was that KH bloke, I merely enquired as to whether he had a new name for him.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2013, 08:05:14 PM »
Hot water tank and immersion, £200, timber, £100, copper pipe, brass fittings and ball valves £200, PID controller, switches and various other electrical bits £100, PVC tube £20, solder flux and gas £30, subtotal £650, £100 allowance for mistakes along the way, £100 for a few oil drums for your settling tank and wvo storage and that's £850. Call it a grand and you might come in under budget which will give you a bit of money for methanol £150 and Kaoh £50. And then you're back at a grand again.

Then you'll probably find yourself upgrading your shed a bit unless you already have water drains and elec.

I could probably build it again for half what I spent first time round, but you pay like that for your education.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2013, 08:06:57 PM »
And why am I stumpy now?

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1693.0/topicseen.html

Oh that ... the phrase little things please little minds springs to the fore, but probably not the best one under the circumstances!
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Re: Newbie
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2013, 08:12:28 PM »
Hot water tank and immersion, £200, timber, £100, copper pipe, brass fittings and ball valves £200, PID controller, switches and various other electrical bits £100, PVC tube £20, solder flux and gas £30, subtotal £650, £100 allowance for mistakes along the way, £100 for a few oil drums for your settling tank and wvo storage and that's £850. Call it a grand and you might come in under budget which will give you a bit of money for methanol £150 and Kaoh £50. And then you're back at a grand again.

Then you'll probably find yourself upgrading your shed a bit unless you already have water drains and elec.

I could probably build it again for half what I spent first time round, but you pay like that for your education.

Oh yeah, we were talking about processors .. I forgot!

Are they your actual build costs?  I assume it all new kit? 

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2013, 08:13:29 PM »
Oh that ... the phrase little things please little minds springs to the fore, but probably not the best one under the circumstances!

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, yes, be very careful with your clichés.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2013, 08:19:14 PM »

I could probably build it again for half what I spent first time round.

And so you should, you must have bought the most expensive stuff you could find.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2013, 08:28:06 PM »
And why am I stumpy now?

http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1693.0/topicseen.html

Oh that ... the phrase little things please little minds springs to the fore, but probably not the best one under the circumstances!

I was going to say Grumpy and Stumpy rolled off the tongue nicely, but thought I'd better not.......
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Re: Newbie
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2013, 08:48:06 PM »
I stopped counting when I went over £1,000, although that was using new parts and I was learning as I went along. If you price the job properly - right down to the cost of the screws and glue for the woodwork - then I think it'd be very hard to do for under £500. Incidentally, on my last post I forgot to include the cost of two pumps. That's another £120 minimum when you include the cost of the fittings to plumb them in.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2013, 09:28:01 PM »
I stopped counting when I went over £1,000, although that was using new parts and I was learning as I went along. If you price the job properly - right down to the cost of the screws and glue for the woodwork - then I think it'd be very hard to do for under £500. Incidentally, on my last post I forgot to include the cost of two pumps. That's another £120 minimum when you include the cost of the fittings to plumb them in.

I can see where you're coming from, I have a habit of squirreling things away just in case they come in "useful" so yes costing things all newly bought you're most likely correct.

But things like the cylinder could be had for scrap value, say 50 quid.  Timber sound expensive, Wickes do 4x2 (or there abouts) for £4.25/2.4m length ... that's 23 lengths worth!  Oil drums could probably be had on here just for the asking, so as was pointed out in and earlier post, if you're not in a rush, use scrap and secondhand parts a far cheaper build is easily possible.

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Re: Newbie
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2013, 12:03:51 AM »
I would say bare bones budget GL cost would come in about £350, all the little fittings and pipe and incidentals add up.  And it is easy to escalate beyond that cost if you want something a bit fancier.

My advice would be to make sure you can get the oil first, then build the biggest processor you can.  You can do little batches in a big processor but not the other way around.  And you'll save effort doing more volume at once.

The only catch is that it takes a while to learn-in - so it's better to start with small batches.

You will never see a homebrewer downscale their rig though :)