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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2013, 08:17:19 PM »
Photoman, that is identical to the filter housing I have just fitted. I went to drain the tank, it's coming out as thin and as clear as you like.
Looks like the element has blocked in around 200 miles or so, with a thick gunk.
I was on the way to get some more elements when I conked.
I know I'm risking it a bit with the oil I'm using, but I didn't think it was that bad, maybe my filtering setup needs new elements.
I've started putting the inline filter back in now. Run out of hose clips, so will have to pull some off some scrappers tomorrow,
I've just bought a load of stuff to make a processor. If I wasn't pratting about with crap oil, I'd have the cone and legs on a drum by now. I just haven't got good enough oil to run on it any more.

Can you pull the element out and clean it in your sausage filter RM? Can you pop a link up to which on you've got? I see one with a glass bowl, that can be pulled apart, for about 6 quid. Only 40 mic though, but I guess I will just have to risk it. The inline I've got isn't going to last much longer.
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2013, 08:38:10 PM »
could it be the in tank strainer blocked ?


the newer (2000 and on) transits don't have them but I'm pretty sure the older ones do ?

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2013, 08:44:57 PM »
The way the lift pump pushes the oil out, i doubt it. There is good pulsing flow. I put a pipe on it hoping to empty the tank. There was no need, the oil is fine.
I'll refit the inline filter tomorrow.
Is the tank accessed through the floor, or dropped down from underneath. If it is accessed through the floor, all the racking will have to come out, to get the floor ply out. Might just cut a hole in the ply if I need to.

Then agian, maybe the thick gunk is coming off the strainer itself, especally now it has got warmer, it may have collected, and is now thin enough to go through.
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2013, 08:54:27 PM »
i dont clean them, never needed too, you can get 5x for about a £10 off ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-LARGE-IN-LINE-DIESEL-BIO-VEG-VEGETABLE-UNIVERSAL-FUEL-FILTERS-8-10mm-/121087190257?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c315be4f1



GM i got one of these somewhere do you want it? i was going to change to these many moons ago for easy clean, but after 1000's and 1000's of miles later, never needed too...

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2013, 09:00:08 PM »
i think these sausage filters are about 40m, seems to be just right for 100% veg, 5m or 10m are really for diesel and its asking alot to push veg oil through a small micron like that... you will get strain on the fuel feed and blocking rapid.... thats why i changed and i gambled and never looked back, me and alot of friends too!

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2013, 09:03:00 PM »
If it's any help, the micron symbol can be had by typing Alt + 0181    ...    µ
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2013, 09:25:31 PM »
i think these sausage filters are about 40m, seems to be just right for 100% veg, 5m or 10m are really for diesel and its asking alot to push veg oil through a small micron like that... you will get strain on the fuel feed and blocking rapid.... thats why i changed and i gambled and never looked back, me and alot of friends too!

I can see your point about it being a bit much to push veg through a 10mic normal diesel filter. Dunno how it has lasted up till now. I guess my pressurised setup aint quite cutting it. My inline is pretty dirt, after less than a thousand miles.

Thanks for the offer of the sausage filter, but by the time I get it off you, I'll have got one delivered anyway. I think I will go for one of those glass ones, so it can be taken apart. I'll order it now in a bit.

I'm just going to have to put some late shifts in and get on the bio.  Pratting about trying to find liquid oil is doing my head in. I'm forever fooling with the filters.

Done it. Ordered this one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-8MM-5-16-CHROME-GLASS-INLINE-FUEL-FILTER-PETROL-DIESEL-/360537179061?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D7589936097012515040%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D360537179061%26
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2013, 10:19:00 PM »
i think these sausage filters are about 40m, seems to be just right for 100% veg, 5m or 10m are really for diesel and its asking alot to push veg oil through a small micron like that... you will get strain on the fuel feed and blocking rapid.... thats why i changed and i gambled and never looked back, me and alot of friends too!

I can see your point about it being a bit much to push veg through a 10mic normal diesel filter. Dunno how it has lasted up till now. I guess my pressurised setup aint quite cutting it. My inline is pretty dirt, after less than a thousand miles.

Thanks for the offer of the sausage filter, but by the time I get it off you, I'll have got one delivered anyway. I think I will go for one of those glass ones, so it can be taken apart. I'll order it now in a bit.

I'm just going to have to put some late shifts in and get on the bio.  Pratting about trying to find liquid oil is doing my head in. I'm forever fooling with the filters.

Done it. Ordered this one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-8MM-5-16-CHROME-GLASS-INLINE-FUEL-FILTER-PETROL-DIESEL-/360537179061?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D7589936097012515040%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D360537179061%26

it wasnt a sausage filter i have, its the second picture the glass / chrome split apart  to clean filter one, i have never used it as sausage ones keep going, they work bang on... keep the bits out and car running like a new filter everytime...

but alas i think you already ordered a glass one  :(

also surface area on these split apart ones isnt big at all (inch? of mesh), infact tiny compared to an original and 6 inch sausage
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2013, 10:22:42 PM »
i dont clean them, never needed too, you can get 5x for about a £10 off ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-LARGE-IN-LINE-DIESEL-BIO-VEG-VEGETABLE-UNIVERSAL-FUEL-FILTERS-8-10mm-/121087190257?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c315be4f1



GM i got one of these somewhere do you want it? i was going to change to these many moons ago for easy clean, but after 1000's and 1000's of miles later, never needed too...



second pic down is the one i was going to send you

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2013, 10:35:28 PM »
My mistake, not to worry.

There are two sizes of the glass ones. I got the bigger one. I'll give it a go anyway. If it fails, I'll have to try the longer sausage ones.
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2013, 10:36:51 PM »
My mistake, not to worry.

There are two sizes of the glass ones. I got the bigger one. I'll give it a go anyway. If it fails, I'll have to try the longer sausage ones.

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2013, 10:44:25 PM »
tank comes down from underneath

I'm surprised you're having problems

you could try removing the return pipe and see what the flow is like, and/or the coming out of the filter

I'm starting to think maybe fuel flow/pressure isn't your problem :-o

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2013, 11:42:14 PM »
When I run a feed into the injection pump, she cracks up and runs, sweet as a nut. I ran a feed and the return into a gallon can today, and it was fine.
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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2013, 12:20:14 AM »
that's...odd


any air in the return ?

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Re: Transit filter problems
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2013, 06:12:00 PM »
It lives again. I think the oil i have in is so dirty its just clogging filters like fun. Either that or a temperature drop let whites precipitate out into the filter. Either way, its just done 20 miles without a problem. See what the morning brings. Chucked abuot 2 gallon of mis fuel in now, so should help a bit.
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