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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 11:36:27 AM »
I think you all ought to think seriously about using coal
or oil. oil is king no log splitting no queen wasps to sting you as you get the logs out of the pile less smoke and best of all an endless  free supply from small garages.

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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »
Those wood splitters are for girls and those that drink cocktails with brollies, this is my favourite! ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5hqhUaj_g

Been looking at those since before getting the log burner.  I can't work out how to turn the screw on my lathe without a taper turning attachment.

You can make a little one quite simply, by cutting the head off a large coach screw and sticking it in a cordless drill.  Works a treat, I use it for splitting old decking into kindling.

if you turn the taper by offsetting the tail stock then you should be able to screw-cut it in the normal way

I did think of that, but due to the angle involved, I don't think a standard dog would drive the work.

have a parallel portion to start with and just move the dog further along so the driving part of the dog engages with the drive pin on the catch plate, as long as you can offset you tail stock there won't be any problem.

What you really want is a copy turning attachment then you can turn any shape or angle, i had one on my lathe when i was in engineering and i used it for loads of stuff
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 05:33:56 PM »
Those wood splitters are for girls and those that drink cocktails with brollies, this is my favourite! ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5hqhUaj_g

Been looking at those since before getting the log burner.  I can't work out how to turn the screw on my lathe without a taper turning attachment.

You can make a little one quite simply, by cutting the head off a large coach screw and sticking it in a cordless drill.  Works a treat, I use it for splitting old decking into kindling.

if you turn the taper by offsetting the tail stock then you should be able to screw-cut it in the normal way

I did think of that, but due to the angle involved, I don't think a standard dog would drive the work.

have a parallel portion to start with and just move the dog further along so the driving part of the dog engages with the drive pin on the catch plate, as long as you can offset you tail stock there won't be any problem.

What you really want is a copy turning attachment then you can turn any shape or angle, i had one on my lathe when i was in engineering and i used it for loads of stuff

I need about a 15°, 30° included, so I'd have to make an offset centre for the tail stock.  I can see how two or three degrees offset could be accommodated by the drive, but I cant get my head around it working with the off set I need.

The best I'd come up with was to remove the cross slide lead screw and clamp a bar at the back of the cross slide at the required angle, so that the cross slide can run along it.  The cross slide could then be held against the bar, whilst powered by the main lead screw.  The cut could be put on by increments on the top slide.

That, or go back to an axe!
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 06:19:43 PM »
Julian,
Further to my previous reply, bottom of page 1, don't use a standard dog but screw a stud into the work at 90 degrees  then use a driving pin in the face plate. I usually hold the two in contact with a couple of elastic bands. If the dog and driver are not in contact when the lead screw is engaged it can chew up the start of the thread.
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 10:26:48 PM »
Julian,
Further to my previous reply, bottom of page 1, don't use a standard dog but screw a stud into the work at 90 degrees  then use a driving pin in the face plate. I usually hold the two in contact with a couple of elastic bands. If the dog and driver are not in contact when the lead screw is engaged it can chew up the start of the thread.
Dick

Dick, sorry, I missed your post on the first page.  Ball bearing idea a good one,  but I'm really having trouble getting my head round the drive arrangement ... I think I need to make a mock up on the lathe to dispel my obvious lack of spacial awareness!

Yes, I have a mop spindle very kindly gifted by the tosser suggesting using coal above your page one post (missed that too), but I don't think the spike is sharp enough.  That's another issue with turning between centres ... the pointy end needs to be sharp.

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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2013, 11:24:58 PM »
Julian,
Further to my previous reply, bottom of page 1, don't use a standard dog but screw a stud into the work at 90 degrees  then use a driving pin in the face plate. I usually hold the two in contact with a couple of elastic bands. If the dog and driver are not in contact when the lead screw is engaged it can chew up the start of the thread.
Dick

Dick, sorry, I missed your post on the first page.  Ball bearing idea a good one,  but I'm really having trouble getting my head round the drive arrangement ... I think I need to make a mock up on the lathe to dispel my obvious lack of spacial awareness!

Yes, I have a mop spindle very kindly gifted by the tosser suggesting using coal above your page one post (missed that too), but I don't think the spike is sharp enough.  That's another issue with turning between centres ... the pointy end needs to be sharp.

To get a sharp point braze or weld a suitable screw into the centre hole
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 12:01:15 AM »
Julian,
Further to my previous reply, bottom of page 1, don't use a standard dog but screw a stud into the work at 90 degrees  then use a driving pin in the face plate. I usually hold the two in contact with a couple of elastic bands. If the dog and driver are not in contact when the lead screw is engaged it can chew up the start of the thread.
Dick

Dick, sorry, I missed your post on the first page.  Ball bearing idea a good one,  but I'm really having trouble getting my head round the drive arrangement ... I think I need to make a mock up on the lathe to dispel my obvious lack of spacial awareness!

Yes, I have a mop spindle very kindly gifted by the tosser suggesting using coal above your page one post (missed that too), but I don't think the spike is sharp enough.  That's another issue with turning between centres ... the pointy end needs to be sharp.

To get a sharp point braze or weld a suitable screw into the centre hole

Now I like that idea.
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2013, 12:34:32 PM »
This looks fun for cord wood ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=a0VKvYB4xss&NR=1

Out of all of them, that's the one that gives me the fear the most.

...probably because it operates slowly :/
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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2013, 01:12:59 PM »
This looks fun for cord wood ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=a0VKvYB4xss&NR=1

Out of all of them, that's the one that gives me the fear the most.

...probably because it operates slowly :/

It's OK, he's wearing gloves.

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Re: Can crushers and log splitters
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2013, 03:53:44 PM »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=602_1363631381  8)
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whoever said they could watch that all day has never worked on a production line. jars of jam, 7 lb tins of jam they were hot as well,  body panels for transits, pagers, daffodils. arrg its all coming back to me. will be dreaming about it now.

Saw this, and thought of what you said -

http://youtu.be/NZK5kkcJypg
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