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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 11:50:25 PM »
I for one like the purity of the site and that it is more information based and lacking the aggression found on some posts
on the VOD site long may it continue

I may be able to contribute to the site with a full repair guide for the Clarke CEB102 pump and TAM105
My son will have to take the pictures for me and as I am computer literate will need some help as to posting

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Nice one Richard.  Never seen the innards of a CEB pump before :) Of course several of us would be quite happy to assist with creating new wiki pages - it's not as daunting as it first seems.
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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2012, 12:04:24 AM »
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What may not be daunting to some may be insurmountable to others

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2012, 09:19:35 PM »
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What may not be daunting to some may be insurmountable to others

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 03:16:06 PM »
It might be worth creating a 'forum charter' type page where everything that's allowed/not allowed on the forum is listed in plain english.

You could have rules on topics such as: Must be at least one of 1) bio/veg related 2) technical 3) of benefit to the membership. Or something along those lines.

You could also spell out the general 'ethos' of the forum, how and why moderators are selected and the steps for disciplining members.

If it's all set out and up front then no one can argue and everyone can see that it's fair. (Or not! :P)

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 04:56:55 PM »
It might be worth creating a 'forum charter' type page where everything that's allowed/not allowed on the forum is listed in plain english.

You could have rules on topics such as: Must be at least one of 1) bio/veg related 2) technical 3) of benefit to the membership. Or something along those lines.

You could also spell out the general 'ethos' of the forum, how and why moderators are selected and the steps for disciplining members.

If it's all set out and up front then no one can argue and everyone can see that it's fair. (Or not! :P)

That's not a bad idea, but the last thing we want is to look dictatorial.  On the other hand it probably helps if people know where they stand ... difficult one!

We already have this page on the wiki ... http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Site_guidelines which covers the basics, but if people are going to use the forum more generally rather than to discuss the wiki, perhaps it needs to be made more forum specific.

If I've got the gist of things the general feeling of replies to this thread was not to stick too religiously to just Bio or veg topics.

As for choosing admin, that's been a bit hit and miss!  Tony set up the site, so obviously he needed to be admin to do so.  He put a link in his signature on the VOD and said no more.  Chug and I noticed the link, signed up as members and started exploring.  Tony then had to go away for a period, so made Chug and myself Admin to look after things in his absence. (baptism of fire in my case!).

That's the way it stayed for some while.  Between the three of us we discussed what we thought the wiki should achieve, how we felt it should be run and, along with others, started to put together the first pages.  I have to say that we were all pretty much of one mind on most subjects and the fact that there were three of us meant that we never had a stalemate if there was a rare difference of opinion.

Between us we I believe we had a good mix of talent ... Tony excels on the software side, Chug has years of experience with veg and Bio and was involved in original Biodiesel Tutorial, and I can err, well, draw pictures reasonably well!

We felt that the admin needed broadening so got the two Keiths on-board.  Keef, Keith expanded the veg knowledge side of things and KH, Keith with good Bio experience and a mind for experimenting had been a regular user and contributor from early on.  Both seem to offer balanced and fair view point (well, most of the time at least) and have subsequently made major and valued contributions.

I'd like to think that collectively we've done a reasonable job to date, but that's not really for us to judge.


Was there a reason for asking how mods are selected?  Have we made a hash of things to the point where we deserve to be sacked?

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2012, 05:51:58 PM »
I have no reason to criticise the current admin and moderation team. As far as I can tell you're all doing a jolly fine job.

I'm just thinking long term - I can't imagine that you'll all want to stay in the current positions eternally. Perhaps it's a question that doesn't really apply to this kind of forum. Certainly on busier ones there's normally several power hungry individuals who put themselves forward for moderation roles. And then cock it up.

As for seeming dictatorial - I agree it is a tough one. However, I have seen what's happened to VOD over the years for being a 'free for all'. It's very easy to relax rules - it's much harder to tighten them when things get out of hand (which they inevitably will) without causing a ruckus.

So I tend to lean towards the opinion of making it clear what will and won't be allowed. You could just state an 'ethos' that the membership should abide by. Those that don't will have legs removed etc etc.

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 06:57:35 PM »
I'm very Douglas Adam's when it comes to power. In that those that really want it probably shouldn't have it.

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2012, 08:58:30 PM »
There's a refreshing difference on this forum.  I've also noticed that members posting on here, aren't the ones who jump on any new idea on VOD!

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 09:14:46 PM »
  I've also noticed that members posting on here, aren't the ones who jump on any new idea on VOD!


Yet !         they are on the way.... the end is nigh ! !

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2012, 10:13:42 PM »
Could you have a vetting system instead of an automatic registration. Would be more time consuming. I was looking at a recently highlighted site today (in USA) - I see that you have to apply to the administrator to join - a form of selection??

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 10:24:13 PM »
What, you mean like ...

Do you have a wealthy, unmarried sister between the ages of 18 and 65, living within a 10 mile radius of any of the admin?
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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 11:57:14 PM »
I'm very Douglas Adam's when it comes to power. In that those that really want it probably shouldn't have it.

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"I think fish is nice, but then I think that rain is wet, so who am I to judge?"


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Douglas Adams, I (mis)quote him regularly, few folk I know seem to get it.

Agree, politicians would definitely be better chosen that way too.
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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2013, 01:41:18 PM »
Could you have a vetting system instead of an automatic registration. Would be more time consuming. I was looking at a recently highlighted site today (in USA) - I see that you have to apply to the administrator to join - a form of selection??

Spoke too soon :-(

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Re: Admins would like to solicit members opinions.
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2013, 12:23:12 AM »
I'm very Douglas Adam's when it comes to power. In that those that really want it probably shouldn't have it.

We clearly need grammar police, muhahaha! Seroiusly,,,, I think open mindedness is they key precept in the BP ethos.

The other day, I imagined a scenario whereby, say ten years ago (a withered Phython-esque toothless crone soothsayer bint) suggested that I would make a 'thing' out of mainly scrap that would mean I would not ever need to buy fuel, unless on holiday in France.
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