Long shot wanted Lister CS cylinder head

[Dickjotec]

Hi all,
I realise it is not likely but worth a punt.
I am looking for a lister cs cylinder head (5.1 6.1 or 8.1) in better condition than mine. On mine the valves are pocketed down to well over spec and it has been well skimmed in the past to the extent it is now affecting the performance.
If anyone has one or knows of one please let me know.
Thanks
Dick

[Julian]

How complicated is the casting?

It might sound a bit OTT, but add a bit of ply wood to account for the skimming and use it as a patten to have a new one cast.

[Dickjotec]

How complicated is the casting?

It might sound a bit OTT, but add a bit of ply wood to account for the skimming and use it as a patten to have a new one cast.

It is a very complicated ccasting lots of internal waterways etc. I can get a new, Indian, head with all new valves springs etc for about £200 so paying much for a second hand one then add in new guides valves springs etc is not viable. If the head I am using is needed before I find a spare then I will get a new one. I am after another engine, a Start o matic, if one comes along before the head is needed then that will also do. The old head is fine for a show engine that runs for short periods on tickover but not on load 24/7.
Dick

[Rotary-Motion]

keep me eyes open chap

[Dickjotec]

Thanks RM you do seem to have a knack of finding things! Any news on you mates solids?
Dick

[Tony]

So do you have a backup system for heating the annex while the engine is down for servicing?

[Rotary-Motion]

Thanks RM you do seem to have a knack of finding things! Any news on you mates solids?
Dick

i will have a chat and find out

[Rotary-Motion]

So do you have a backup system for heating the annex while the engine is down for servicing?

elecricity the paid for variety 

[Dickjotec]

So do you have a backup system for heating the annex while the engine is down for servicing?

As RM says the cabin also has electric heating but fortunately the Lister does not take long to service providing I have the parts.
Head off strip, grind valves clean rebuild and refit in about hour and a half without rushing. Injection pump strip and clean about an hour , injector strip clean and test 1/2 hour, oil change 1/2 hour. Other jobs take similar times  - they are very simple but very dirty to work on!
Dick

[Tony]

That's surprisingly easy sounding.  I lust after a CS still, the big issue being moving the damn thing but if they split into parts easily enough then that alleviates the problem

[Dickjotec]

They split easy except the flywheels, they can be a pig to get off the first time. They are held on with jib keys. Provided the key is intact then a jib key puller will usually shift them but if the key has been butchered then it is a pita.
To get the head and cylinder off takes 10 minutes, 8 nuts and disconnect the injector. The two flywheels probably make up half the total weight but it is possible to pick an individual one up. The block and crank is the next heaviest and needs a crane of some type though two strong men could lift it with a suitable handle fixed to the head studs.
Most people roll the complete engines on rollers, I lift mine with a trolley jack and put it on rollers when I want to move it in the engine shed.
If you are lucky they often come on trolleys, mine did so I just winched it up into the trailer.
The som's however are seriously heavy.
Dick

[1958steveflying]

They split easy except the flywheels, they can be a pig to get off the first time. They are held on with jib keys. Provided the key is intact then a jib key puller will usually shift them but if the key has been butchered then it is a pita.
To get the head and cylinder off takes 10 minutes, 8 nuts and disconnect the injector. The two flywheels probably make up half the total weight but it is possible to pick an individual one up. The block and crank is the next heaviest and needs a crane of some type though two strong men could lift it with a suitable handle fixed to the head studs.
Most people roll the complete engines on rollers, I lift mine with a trolley jack and put it on rollers when I want to move it in the engine shed.
If you are lucky they often come on trolleys, mine did so I just winched it up into the trailer.
The som's however are seriously heavy.
Dick

It took about a month to get mine off with a gib key puller, every day just a bit more tension until eventually they did move, and to be honest I had all but given up.

[Tony]

Hmm yes I remember the key on my LR1 being a problem, did get it out in the end though.  Not something I'd want to be trying when picking up an engine.