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Title: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Posted this on VOD as well
What are the benefits of adding mineral ATF to the fuel when topping up, similar use to Redex, instead of now and again when changing the filter
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 02:55:51 PM
Can't answer that, but there were quite a lot of positive comments about adding 2 stroke oil a few years back.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Tony on January 08, 2013, 03:03:13 PM
Someone on VOD had bad running after running a filter filled with ATF.  Can't say I'm convinced on AFT in the filter, it has some funny properties that allow friction bands in auto boxes to grip while submerged in the stuff so not sure how a fuel pump will fair running it (lots of metal on metal moving parts!).

I imagine a bit in the tank will be much lower risk, but then again maybe just use some light hydrocarbon fractions like in injector cleaners, bit of white spirits?  Don't forget though that neither ATF or white spirits is duty paid - unlike proper injector cleaner which already has duty paid on it at the point of purchase.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 03:25:18 PM
What was the benefit of using 2 stroke??
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Can't remember exactly, but I think it was smoother running, more MPG etc, etc.  I do remember it was all quite positive and presumably it legal and duty paid at least up to the max ratio stated on the container.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Tony on January 08, 2013, 04:50:30 PM
Was that two stroke with Diesel?  Or two stroke with bio/veg?

Presumably with diesel there is a lubrication benefit that isn't the case with bio/veg.

Do love the smell of Castrol R though :) (Castor Oil from Castor beans IIRC)
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 04:52:26 PM
There's lots of info. if you Google it ...

http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?15038-Reducing-fuel-consumption

http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=136759

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/2-stroke-oil-diesel-164225.html

Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
Was that two stroke with Diesel?  Or two stroke with bio/veg?

Presumably with diesel there is a lubrication benefit that isn't the case with bio/veg.

Do love the smell of Castrol R though :) (Castor Oil from Castor beans IIRC)

Think it was all with Dino, but the claimed advantages can't just be down to better lubrication, surly?

Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member or two to indulge in some experimentation!

Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
Julian - the links are interesting
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Bio Dervotee on January 08, 2013, 06:54:16 PM
Hi all
seen a volvo coach starting up after a turbo change, i'd just walked into the garage to start my shift, the guy doing the work changed the turbo but didn't clean out the intercooler which was full of oil from previous turbo failure, end result was 10litre diesel engine revving its guts out, sounded like F1 car.
until it threw a rod
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 08, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member or two to indulge in some experimentation!

Off you go then.
It'll be a novel thing for a disco to burn mineral oil instead of dumping it on the drive.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 08, 2013, 09:19:21 PM
Hi all
seen a volvo coach starting up after a turbo change, i'd just walked into the garage to start my shift, the guy doing the work changed the turbo but didn't clean out the intercooler which was full of oil from previous turbo failure, end result was 10litre diesel engine revving its guts out, sounded like F1 car.
until it threw a rod

Is he now seaking further employment ?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member or two to indulge in some experimentation!

Off you go then.
It'll be a novel thing for a disco to burn mineral oil instead of dumping it on the drive.

Sorry, that should have read ...

    "Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member with an interest in additives to indulge in some experimentation!"

Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
Loosing track - is it back to me
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 08, 2013, 10:03:54 PM
No, that was aimed in my direction and scored a direct hit.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 08, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member or two to indulge in some experimentation!

Off you go then.
It'll be a novel thing for a disco to burn mineral oil instead of dumping it on the drive.

Sorry, that should have read ...

    "Sounds like there's room for an intrepid member with an interest in additives to indulge in some experimentation!"

Is ATF green ?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
Sounds like 'Battleships'
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 08, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Red
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 08, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
Not interested then.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 08, 2013, 10:33:25 PM
Who? Me?
A9
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 09, 2013, 03:01:21 PM
Miss
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 09, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
Not interested then.

Why pray tell ?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 09, 2013, 09:31:28 PM
Not interested then.

Why pray tell ?

More of a privet joke (on a public forum).
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: julesandtash on January 09, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
What is a privet joke? Something to do with hedges maybe  :)
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: julesandtash on January 09, 2013, 09:48:39 PM

Off you go then.
It'll be a novel thing for a disco to burn mineral oil instead of dumping it on the drive.

Nothing wrong with that - it's just marking it's territory and is an indication that there is still some oil inside. It's when there is no oil leaking that you have to worry
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 09, 2013, 09:59:33 PM
What is a privet joke? Something to do with hedges maybe  :)

Dam spell check.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 09, 2013, 10:35:57 PM

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Is he now seaking further employment ?
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Is this spell check getting it wrong for you too Mark ?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 09, 2013, 10:51:06 PM


Is he now seaking further employment ?
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Is this spell check getting it wrong for you too Mark ?
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Yes, you type what you think is the right spelling, hit spell check and hope you pick the right word,
but as you don't know how to spell it in the first place, how do you know it you've picked the right one ?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 10, 2013, 12:03:42 AM
I thought we were playing battleships ... did some one win? ... did I miss it?
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 10, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
I did say that A9 was a miss - C7
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 10, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
Got sidetracked by the hedging discussion
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 10, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
Dam, that's my nuclear carrier ... B4

Was the hedging Southern or Midland style?  I used to do a bit of Southern style and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 10, 2013, 05:29:16 PM


Is he now seaking further employment ?

Is this spell check getting it wrong for you too Mark ?
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Yes, you type what you think is the right spelling, hit spell check and hope you pick the right word,
but as you don't know how to spell it in the first place, how do you know it you've picked the right one ?
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Well I have no idea what language spell check you're using Mark but no "seaking" in the English one. lol.. maybe seeking  or a Sea king !   
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: McDuff on January 10, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
Hit - battleship - F3
Not sure about the hedging - prefer Topiary
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Head Womble on January 10, 2013, 10:33:48 PM
They're picking on me mum, I don't like it  :'(
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: Julian on January 10, 2013, 10:53:58 PM
They're picking on me mum, I don't like it  :'(

No we're not.

Oh, and Mum should start with a capital letter and a sentence should end with a fullstop ... good spelling though.
Title: Re: Use of ATF
Post by: 1958steveflying on January 11, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
They're picking on me mum, I don't like it  :'(

No we're not.

Oh, and Mum should start with a capital letter and a sentence should end with a fullstop ... good spelling though.

Lol.