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Title: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Dickjotec on December 18, 2012, 06:43:28 PM
Also posted on the other side.
As above full details here

http://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/10115186.Men_jailed_for_stealing_cooking_oil/?ref=rss

Wonder if they had any of mine that has gone missing over the years?
Dick
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: julesandtash on December 18, 2012, 07:46:33 PM
I don't imagine they stole any of the oil collections from members on here.
It sounds more like they were impersonating a large national company and stealing their oil - which actually sounds like quite an enterprising approach.

It does amaze me though that the prison's are too full to put people who commit burglaries and assaults inside yet a couple of men who, whilst they have broke the law, have not hurt anybody, get two years.

There is definitely something wrong with this country.
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Tony on December 18, 2012, 08:04:24 PM
Looks like a total of £140k of oil stolen though, that's a massive amount!  It's not like they nicked a couple of tins.
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: greasemonkey on December 18, 2012, 09:18:17 PM
It does kind of show what a shambolic setup the real collection company must be, to not notice that much WVO disappearing. You would think the crooks would have been tracked down and had a good lamping soon after they started the scam.
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: julianf on December 18, 2012, 11:35:32 PM
Looks like a total of £140k of oil stolen though, that's a massive amount!  It's not like they nicked a couple of tins.


There's no way that's accurate though.  Its like when they stop some barge full of hash, and then calculate it at £5 bag prices.

Quote
In total, West Midlands detectives identified 227 oil theft offences resulting in a loss of £71,380 for the company Bradley and Walker’s scam operation so closely resembled with an additional £76,000 worth of oil stolen from KFC.

...so,

£71,380 +  £76,000 = £147 380

/ 227

= £649.251101


They had a transit van, and a home made syphoning device.  And yet they *averaged* £649 worth on every theft. 

What's the going rate for an IBC now, £450 ish, give or take £100?  So that's more than 1000ltrs averaged on every pickup, with their "homemade siphoning kit"





The only other way to read it is "227 oil theft offences" as in 227 laws broken.  I kinda doubt there are 227 laws on the theft of wvo to break!



Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Rotary-Motion on December 19, 2012, 07:35:58 AM
wonder if it went on ebay by the 1000 load?

on a side mote is veg still selling on ebay?

so,eone going big here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-FILTERED-COOKING-OIL-VEGETABLE-OIL-WVO-FILTERED-TO-400-MICRONS-/321043004681?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4abfa77d09
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: julesandtash on December 19, 2012, 07:37:50 AM
I doubt it - the article says that it was sold on to a commercial producer at a premium price.
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Dickjotec on December 19, 2012, 08:15:03 AM
There is a commercial producer in Stourport that buys oil they may have been selling it there. I am not implying in any way that the bio producer knew the oil was hokey.
Dick
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Rotary-Motion on December 19, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
There is a commercial producer in Stourport that buys oil they may have been selling it there. I am not implying in any way that the bio producer knew the oil was hokey.
Dick

many moons ago i could of bought off them 30ppl or something, thrn stopped selling to public not enough stocks, not sure what there upto now?
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Tony on December 19, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
It all pales to insignificance compared to this scheme:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/12/19/mystery-biodiesel-train-credits.html

Basically shuttling the same 12 cars of biodiesel back and forth across the Ca/US border to repeatedly generate renewable energy credits!
Title: Re: 2 jailed for 2 years for stealing Wvo
Post by: Rotary-Motion on December 19, 2012, 01:00:13 PM
always a scam going on, like politicians expenses, world sucks.... :-\