Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum
General => Chatter => Topic started by: Rotary-Motion on November 24, 2012, 09:52:33 AM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-EX-BT-D5W-12V-EBERSPACHER-WATER-HEATER-/160924248040?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item2577d527e8
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Nice find! Like the avatar, I hope you're planning on passing that around ;)
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Don't they only run on dino.
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Don't they only run on dino.
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Eberspacher sell a Bio proof pump, then they are fine.
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Nice find! Like the avatar, I hope you're planning on passing that around ;)
i like to share 8)
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Don't they only run on dino.
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Eberspacher sell a Bio proof pump, then they are fine.
I have a D2 air heater (also ex-bt van!)
It really does not like bio. Unstable, smokey burn. Really not worth using on it.
Ive never burnt dino on it, but its flawless on kerosene. Nice stable clean burn.
The D4 unit is specified to run on bio, but the D2 isnt. The design is basically the same, so im unsure why this is, but all i know is that, for sure, the D2 is no good on bio.
Steve - which unit have you had sucess with? I have been tempted to sell my D2 and get a D4, but i did not want to bother unless i knew with certainty that it would be ok.
Its not that kerosene is expensive for the amount it uses, its just the inconvenience of having two tanks etc.
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On the net, somewhere, there is a site that delves into the reasons why the D4 unit will run on bio ans the D2 wont. It is something to do with the area of the burn chanber, and the way the fuel is ignited. I stumbled across it once, but have no idea where to find it.
Another thing to think about when buying second hand erberspachers, is that they can get lockout, where if its been started so many times, without actually working, a safety feature cuts in, and they need to be reset by the manufacturer. I dunno is that info correct or not, just another thing I remember reading somewhere.
I'd love to have one fitted, I'd just run it on Dino from a fitted tank. there are so many vehicles they were fitted to, emergency serevice vehicles, utilitys vehicles. There must be loads in scrap yards, and most people wouldn't know what they are looking at.
And it needs the control panel, it doesnt look like its with that one.
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Ive got a BN4 petrol heater for sale :)
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Ive got a BN4 petrol heater for sale :)
Thats a scary looking piece of kit. i just googled it.
How does it plumb into the water jacket? Seems it heats the water through a heat exchanger.
Does it blast hot air out the back, or only down the exhaust pipe?
How much would one be wanting for it............?
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Its just a vehicle heater,ive got two,one will be used in my camper,its like this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eberspacher-BN4-heater-for-VW-camper-crewcab-splitty-westfalia-/261122875386?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item3ccc22dffa&nma=true&si=Hri0%2BtlIBvGysJn3s7mhasfgbNo%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
They have different air hoses one round one oblong,when i decide which outlet i will use i will sell the other.
The first one i had refurbished,the second i paid £100 for untested,i would be looking for my money back but i would want to make sure it works before selling
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Ahhh, I thought it heated the water jacket. Great thing in a camper though.
Having starting problems now. Must get my act together.
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Don't they only run on dino.
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Eberspacher sell a Bio proof pump, then they are fine.
I have a D2 air heater (also ex-bt van!)
It really does not like bio. Unstable, smokey burn. Really not worth using on it.
Ive never burnt dino on it, but its flawless on kerosene. Nice stable clean burn.
The D4 unit is specified to run on bio, but the D2 isnt. The design is basically the same, so im unsure why this is, but all i know is that, for sure, the D2 is no good on bio.
Steve - which unit have you had sucess with? I have been tempted to sell my D2 and get a D4, but i did not want to bother unless i knew with certainty that it would be ok.
Its not that kerosene is expensive for the amount it uses, its just the inconvenience of having two tanks etc.
I ran my D2 for a season on Bio without issue's, but when I came to run it the next year the rubber pipework had gone soggy and black goo got sucked into the heater. Now that did cause me grief, so on the basis I probably use about 15 litres of fuel a season in it I just run it on Dino now.
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i am looking for a diesel one complete if any one has one for sale
thanks william
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Ive got a BN4 petrol heater for sale :)
Ive got a B4 (no 'n') that looks a bit like this lurking somwhere -
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2280/petrolheaters008jx7.jpg)
...apart from mine is black for some reason.
I heard that that VW camper owners were keen on them for some reason (i mean the split or bay windows - not modern ones), so you might like to try pushing it to them?
I had another ages ago, that came with my landrover 101 (my 2nd unit came from someone else's 101) - i swapped it for the D2 when i swapped the V8 for a TDI, but, in hindsight, if i needed a separate tank for the D2, i may as well have stayed with the B4 : (
On the net, somewhere, there is a site that delves into the reasons why the D4 unit will run on bio ans the D2 wont. It is something to do with the area of the burn chanber, and the way the fuel is ignited. I stumbled across it once, but have no idea where to find it.
Another thing to think about when buying second hand erberspachers, is that they can get lockout, where if its been started so many times, without actually working, a safety feature cuts in, and they need to be reset by the manufacturer. I dunno is that info correct or not, just another thing I remember reading somewhere.
I'd love to have one fitted, I'd just run it on Dino from a fitted tank. there are so many vehicles they were fitted to, emergency serevice vehicles, utilitys vehicles. There must be loads in scrap yards, and most people wouldn't know what they are looking at.
And it needs the control panel, it doesnt look like its with that one.
Ive heard that some get lock-out too, but my D2 certainly does not. Theres different controllers for them also, so it may be to do with them also.
I spoke with a helpfull service agent once who went into, if i didnt want to use the controller, just wire a switch between x and y (etc) on the loom... but my controller was fine.
If you ever come across the website again that goes into the D2 / D4 bio issue, id be keen to read. I will have a look for it myself now!
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I had a look and cant find the site, it was deep in another site somewhere.
Heres an informative bit about lockout.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72442
And right at the bottom of this page, is info about bio diesel. Its worth going to the home page and reading up on these guys.
http://letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/Eberspacher_Fuel_1.html
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Ive got a BN4 petrol heater for sale :)
I heard that that VW camper owners were keen on them for some reason (i mean the split or bay windows - not modern ones), so you might like to try pushing it to them?
I am a VW bay owner :) and thats where i got em ;D
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Ive got a BN4 petrol heater for sale :)
I heard that that VW camper owners were keen on them for some reason (i mean the split or bay windows - not modern ones), so you might like to try pushing it to them?
I am a VW bay owner :) and thats where i got em ;D
just had to log in again pfft
i seen one of these VW jobs today looked like a teabag :o
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I had a look and cant find the site, it was deep in another site somewhere.
Heres an informative bit about lockout.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72442
And right at the bottom of this page, is info about bio diesel. Its worth going to the home page and reading up on these guys.
http://letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/Eberspacher_Fuel_1.html
I like this bit near the bottom of one of the pages.
"Diesel engines & heaters that are not designed for biodiesel can suffer from filter clogging, coking and rubber seal damage.
Home made or roadside bio fuels are very different to EN 14214 spec oil."
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I know mine is often not to EN spec, fine for the Delica though!
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Hi, I've got the servicce manuals for the whole range of eberspacher D series heaters somewhere, I had to get them for my mates minibus conversion, if anyone wants copies i can try duplicating them.
Will
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Hi, I've got the servicce manuals for the whole range of eberspacher D series heaters somewhere, I had to get them for my mates minibus conversion, if anyone wants copies i can try duplicating them.
Will
Would,nt mind a copy of the D1 & D2 if pos?
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any good?
http://www.letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/Eberspacher_Intro_1.html
http://www.eberspaecher-reisemobile.de/fileadmin/data/microsites/reisemobile/pdf/je_katalog_zusatzteile_10_11.pdf
alot of manuals here in .PDF for downloads
http://ebookbrowse.com/ai/airtronic-d2-manual?page=5
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Hi folks,
To K H, sorry mate, I never saw your reply, if you still want them I will look for them in the next few days and I can try to either email them or copy them and send em to you. They cover the range from D1 up to D7-8 if I remember correctly.
cheers
Will
ps. They cover water heaters too, if i rememeber
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Im sorry - i too did not come back to this post, so did not see your request. Im away at the moment, but this should get you started -
http://www.eberspacher.com/support-and-downloads/technical-documents.html
eg -
http://www.eberspacher.com/downloads/technical-documents/airtronicD2+D4_technical.pdf
I think there are other bits about as well though, which is what i think i have stored on the computer at home. As i recall, there are different documents that should all say the same thing, but some of them say slightly different things, hence saving them.
...but it was some time ago that i was dealing with this, so i may be wrong.
There's a good selection of documents on the link above though.
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Thanks for the replies and links.