Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum
General => Chatter => Topic started by: Mr Tickle on June 08, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
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At BP services in Swansea west at the end of the world, Diesel £2.05 Petrol £2.02 just wow! :o :o
It was only a few months back I was predicting that it would reach £1.70 and in no time at all the racketeers oil industry has got us to this monumental moment in History. I did think that no-one would dare to exceed £1.99 until they absolutely had to, but greed observes no limits.
If i remember correctly, it wasn't that long ago that the UK went on a refinery blockade when prices at the pump reached £0.85 and most cars had come to a standstill.
I have to say that for a brief period in lock-down when the price hit about £1.05 I was slightly disappointed as the effort to reward ratio of brewing my own bothered me, however now that the price has skyrocketed quicker than Boris's popularity has fallen since the Sue Grey report I am feeling quite smug.
I will be enjoying my shed time this weekend making another brew, and pleased I continued with the hobby as I dont see prices dropping any time soon and certainly not to (still an eye watering) £1.50 ever.
Discuss.
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The last time I bought diesel (aside from getting caught short on a drive across Europe) was 2007 so I'm a bit out of touch.
How does Joe Average afford to run a car at all these days? I see a lot of big diesel/petrol 4x4-a-likes - are they all on finance with people taking credit card debt to fuel them? Or are most people just on much better salaries than me? (Even I was earning big bucks, I doubt I could bring myself to waste it on a new fuel guzzler - makes no sense to me!)
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Every time I make a batch of BD I tell myself that the 140 odd litres of freshly minted liquid gold would cost in excess of £250 to buy at the pump & then I have a little smile. My friends sneered & thought I was crazy for embarking down this road 7 or 8 years ago, they're not sneering anymore!!
Edit: Just looked & it's been over 10 yrs. I've been at this lark.
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This is a hard post to write.
For many reasons I gave up brewing BD 5 or 6 years ago and sold my setup to Tony.
I'm now in the position of paying close to £90 to fill my tank.
It's bad enough for most drivers, but when you've had first hand experience of filling up for close to nothing it hurts, I mean really hurts.
It's not just the price of filling up, it's the knock on effect this is having on everything we buy.
Then you add the gas and electric costs.
I have a reasonable job, how are the low earners coping.
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filled up in asda earlier, tyhere was a queue at the normal pumps so I used the credit card only pump...
there's a £99 limit.... I put £99 in and it didn't fill the tank :-(
filled a van last week, it took £130 and it wasn't even empty to start with
I need to pull my finger out and get my reactor going, had too many other things going on but it's getting silly now
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This is a good time to be brewing your own. So pleased I never gave up. Even though chemical costs have gone through the roof I'm saving about £1.50 a litre at the moment.
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In recent months my partners kids have asked why I'm driving around in a 54 plate passat and when I'm planning on getting a more modern car. I've always pointed them toward any forecourt price indicator. More so now than ever before.
Energy and oil companies wont be happy until they have all the worlds money.
I predict a riot and autumnal civil unrest!!
These increases have got to stop..everywhere!
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Diesel was 196.9pl in Maidenhead this a.m.
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So glad all our cars can run bio, the forecourts are an absolute rip off, especially when you look at the almost 50% tax take by the government who say they're doing what they can - yeah right, doing what they can to rip everyone off more than they ever have done.
I wonder if all these price increases is part of the 'build back better' and 'Great Reset' they were all banging on about not too long ago?
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Could be to claw some of that furlough money back.?
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What never fails to amaze me is the total disregard many of out trans Atlantic cousins have for fuel consumption.
I was reading on another site how a member was complaining that he had to go on a 400 mile journey and his car did about 18 mpg.
Wouldn't it make more sense to stop driving these gas guzzlers and do themselves and everyone else a favour.
Imagine driving a car in the UK that only did 18 mpg. Folk would think you were mad.
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What never fails to amaze me is the total disregard many of out trans Atlantic cousins have for fuel consumption.
I was reading on another site how a member was complaining that he had to go on a 400 mile journey and his car did about 18 mpg.
Wouldn't it make more sense to stop driving these gas guzzlers and do themselves and everyone else a favour.
Imagine driving a car in the UK that only did 18 mpg. Folk would think you were mad.
I sold it now.... but my Jag used to get 16mpg :-o
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Bear in mind that US gallons are smaller than our Imperial ones (4L for US and 4.5L for Imp approximately). So you can add at lest 10% more to the US mileage for comparison - that still makes it a significant gas guzzler though :(
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What never fails to amaze me is the total disregard many of out trans Atlantic cousins have for fuel consumption.
I was reading on another site how a member was complaining that he had to go on a 400 mile journey and his car did about 18 mpg.
Wouldn't it make more sense to stop driving these gas guzzlers and do themselves and everyone else a favour.
Imagine driving a car in the UK that only did 18 mpg. Folk would think you were mad.
I sold it now.... but my Jag used to get 16mpg :-o
Thats nothing Knighty. When I ran two Model shops I bought a Lincoln Continental. when the front bumper was lined up with a Ford Granada you were sat further back in the Lincolns 2 seats than in the rears in the Granada. Anyhow, to the point it did 4 yes thats right 4mpg.
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So glad all our cars can run bio, the forecourts are an absolute rip off, especially when you look at the almost 50% tax take by the government who say they're doing what they can - yeah right, doing what they can to rip everyone off more than they ever have done.
I wonder if all these price increases is part of the 'build back better' and 'Great Reset' they were all banging on about not too long ago?
If Petrol/Diesel was affordable there would be no incentive to go electric.
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But what happens when charging your Leaf or Tesla becomes unafordable. What then?
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But what happens when charging your Leaf or Tesla becomes unafordable. What then?
Buy a lister generator and charge it from that running on.... ;D
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That'll probably be the best way forward. Neighbours will love the rhythm of a thumping lister. ;D
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But what happens when charging your Leaf or Tesla becomes unafordable. What then?
even is electric prices go up it'll still cost the fraction of what petrol/diesel costs
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How much does it cost to charge an EV?
Currently about £15 to charge a 60kw battery giving approx 200mile range.
So 600mile on a typical tank of petrol...about £100. To charge a 60kw battery for the same distance £45.
For me....not enough of a saving considering the potentially short life of the battery compared with a well serviced ICE. Plus the big layout cost of the EV in the first place.
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If you've got buckets of cash you can strap solar panels to your roof, charge your powerwall (other battery based home storage systems are available) and then charge your car from that at your convenience - all at zero cost per unit (aside from hefty initial outlay).
I'll keep brewing the bio, I think.
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What never fails to amaze me is the total disregard many of out trans Atlantic cousins have for fuel consumption.
I was reading on another site how a member was complaining that he had to go on a 400 mile journey and his car did about 18 mpg.
Wouldn't it make more sense to stop driving these gas guzzlers and do themselves and everyone else a favour.
Imagine driving a car in the UK that only did 18 mpg. Folk would think you were mad.
I sold it now.... but my Jag used to get 16mpg :-o
HAHAHA laughs in 4.2 V* supercharged on 17.5 MPG. I fill up twice a week sometimes doing 700 odd miles per week.
Funny thing was when I used to get free oil I never had any spare cash.
I also have an electric van but been doing a lot of work outside the range of the van so had to resort to using the car.
Also price of veg oil has gone through the roof!
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20 litres of rapeseed at bookers £46
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20 litres of rapeseed at bookers £46
Wow - it was £15 at Costco 6 months ago (KFC though not rapeseed) so that's an increase of threefold!
My local chippie I collect from used to use 2 Cubes per week now I get 2 per fortnight. They said they filter it now and use it twice as long. I suspect many other will do similar.
I just waiting for my 3 suppliers of WVO to tell me they want more £ per cube that the usual £4 I give them.
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I dont think that bookers have increased what they credit for full cubies
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My local chippie I collect from used to use 2 Cubes per week now I get 2 per fortnight. They said they filter it now and use it twice as long. I suspect many other will do similar.
One of my regular collections was much less than I normally collect and some of it was really dark - evidently using it as long as possible!
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good point. the fuel companies are going to be stuck with a large over capacity of refineries soon so are not going be too keen to build anymore. they cant really divesify vey easily so the refineries will start to be getting expensive to maintain as more electric cars are brought. i did read a while ago that they investigating plastic production instead. as arthur c clarke poited out decades ago burning crude oil is really stupid. its much more useful as a raw material for other things. goodbye internal cumbustion engine hello electic motor. lithium batteries can be 99% recycled. maybe thats where they should looking. there are only 2 plants that do though. one in taiwan and one in france. the process is patented so they will have to fork out to join that club. i wouldnt want to be a oil company executive at the moment.